by Zakkia Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:00 amOr, its the villain. Mind. Blown.
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Trailer Guy = Oscar equivilant?
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DoughGuy wrote:She has brown hair. Velka is entirely defined by being a "Black Haired witch"
No, it's black. Unless I'm seeing wrong. But I'm going to be honest: the fact that the sun is hitting directly at her hair makes difficult to be sure. But if you look at the side the sun's not hitting you can see black.
And regarding the sun boiling: the blood falls on the ground of that dark place full of ashes and near lava pools. In a later scene you can see that there is smoke all around the area because of the heat. If this is not the reason for his blood boiling, then I agree it's an important thing, but the fact that he is in THAT place when that happens, it just doesn't let me think of it that way.
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Its definitely brown bro, i just checked just for you. When she gives him the feather you can see it clearly.
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sinspaw wrote:I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this so far:
The guy's blood is boiling. It touches the ground it is behaving scorch like. That's gotta be a sign of something in my book.
This could either mean that he has some kind of special blood OR that the ground is very very hot OR the most likely solution to me is that he has slayn a dragon and it's blood pours from his hand.
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could still be lautric and the chick could be fina, i want it to be lautric, it would also explain why he is duel wielding. he obviously had a mission when you where forced to kill him, i personally think he was doing something like you but was not undead therefore he had no chance.....
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al0cer wrote:Does anyone have an oppinion on the artwork on the hero's helmet?
I think it's fairly significant, as it looks to be implying he is a 'dragon slayer' of soughts.
that, the fire that appears in his eyes, and the appearance of the armor only further strengthens my theory that he is Gwyn before he linked the flames. The woman dressed in a pyromancy cloak could indeed be the Witch of Izalith before she turned into that bug you see in the Bed of Chaos.
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gaarafrednorris wrote:al0cer wrote:Does anyone have an oppinion on the artwork on the hero's helmet?
I think it's fairly significant, as it looks to be implying he is a 'dragon slayer' of soughts.
that, the fire that appears in his eyes, and the appearance of the armor only further strengthens my theory that he is Gwyn before he linked the flames. The woman dressed in a pyromancy cloak could indeed be the Witch of Izalith before she turned into that bug you see in the Bed of Chaos.
Yeah that's definitly a thing that can't be overseen. Though I don't think that the woman in brown is the WoI it still could be later on. Also I think that the knight is either gwyn or his firstborn son.
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I have not watched the trailer.
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Rynn wrote:I have not watched the trailer.
Why...?
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This was hinted at before and I made mention of it. It has to be an NPC unless they want to change the game mechanic entirely or they're effin amazing at cutscenes now. The scenes show combat. Combat with specific weapons and gear meaning that we're not looking at anything "in game" since that means they're either making us use certain equipment or they have the cutscenes with different combat mechanics based on character gear (not likely). So either that's an intro scene (like the age of dragons/war from Dark Souls or Giant Beast with corpses thing from Demons) or an amalgam of scenes in the game that slowly unfold an NPCs story. The second option is a departure from the Souls series so my guess is we're looking at the "backstory" video which could hold little to no correlation with gameplay. I mean look at how different the lords in the video are to their gameplay in Dark Souls. New directors could mean a lot of changes but my vote is still that we're only seeing the intro movie.
Extrapolating that: I don't think he's an equivalent of Oscar. Oscar's role is akin to parallel to the player....same goals...same choices...etc. Essentially Oscar is intended to be an illustration of the game, even to the extent that he's promoted by using in game footage almost exclusively. Footage that the player can duplicate with their own character. My venture is that, due to the popularity of the Artorias figure, we're looking at another legendary knight whose story is intertwined with the lore and is a central figure in gameplay. With that being said.....who wants to fight this guy?
Extrapolating that: I don't think he's an equivalent of Oscar. Oscar's role is akin to parallel to the player....same goals...same choices...etc. Essentially Oscar is intended to be an illustration of the game, even to the extent that he's promoted by using in game footage almost exclusively. Footage that the player can duplicate with their own character. My venture is that, due to the popularity of the Artorias figure, we're looking at another legendary knight whose story is intertwined with the lore and is a central figure in gameplay. With that being said.....who wants to fight this guy?
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Guys i think i have found proof that this is based after Dark Souls 1. Look at the helmet he's wearing. It depicts something, a scene of some sort. And from the way i can see it, i see two possible things.
1.) Seath being slain by a warrior(the chosen undead).
2.) Two of the serpents in sens fortress facing each other.
I'm going towards number 1 simply because there is a difference in the engravings of both sides. So if that is correct that would mean it has to be based after Dark Souls 1. Something i would also want to point out is that with such armour depicting a scene, wouldn't be generic starting armour proving that its definitely an NPC of some sort, not the character you play as. It could be a good endever if someone would like to help me, to scan the armour he wears in search of clues.
1.) Seath being slain by a warrior(the chosen undead).
2.) Two of the serpents in sens fortress facing each other.
I'm going towards number 1 simply because there is a difference in the engravings of both sides. So if that is correct that would mean it has to be based after Dark Souls 1. Something i would also want to point out is that with such armour depicting a scene, wouldn't be generic starting armour proving that its definitely an NPC of some sort, not the character you play as. It could be a good endever if someone would like to help me, to scan the armour he wears in search of clues.
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There's one thing wrong with your theory.
Seath didn't have feet.
Seath didn't have feet.
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That? is a fair pointgaarafrednorris wrote:There's one thing wrong with your theory.
Seath didn't have feet.
So serpents then? Either way it hints at something which was in the previous souls game.
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Right. I've been watching the trailer again.. and I have an idea.
That might not be Gwyn.. but someone else.
From the Ring of Steel Protection's Description:
"This ring belonged to the Knight King Rendal. It grants its wearer protection by boosting
defence against physical attacks. Of the many legends surrounding the Knight King Rendal,
one of the more well-known speaks of his standing down a giant drake and slashing it to pieces."
And now for setting ones.
Think about it. A ring that told a snippet about a Knight who fought a dragon, stood his ground, and slashed it to pieces.
The trailer has our mysterious man just standing there as fire is breathed on him.
That might not be Gwyn.. but someone else.
From the Ring of Steel Protection's Description:
"This ring belonged to the Knight King Rendal. It grants its wearer protection by boosting
defence against physical attacks. Of the many legends surrounding the Knight King Rendal,
one of the more well-known speaks of his standing down a giant drake and slashing it to pieces."
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the design of this area on his helmet looks similar to that of the isignia on the Hoplite's shields in Demon Souls. If you remember, the insignia was also seen on flags in Boletaria 1-1, the Knights' Barracks..
While it was in Demon's Souls.. I still deem this to be relevant.
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This area resembles a cape of sorts, which could have been worn by a member of royalty. Also, the armor of the man pictured on the helm looks like that of the man in the trailer.. perhaps if this IS Rendall, then he had it special made to do this as to commemorate one of his legends?
And now for setting ones.
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look at the area closely. To me, this greatly looks like one of 2 areas in the Depths. Either the area with the bigass rat, or the one that led to Domhnall of Zena. The slimed area with the arrows pointing to them gave me this idea.
And the vault-like opening could be something that sealed off Blighttown if this is where Domnhall of Zena was.
Think about it. A ring that told a snippet about a Knight who fought a dragon, stood his ground, and slashed it to pieces.
The trailer has our mysterious man just standing there as fire is breathed on him.
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He was clearly wearing the DWGR, and if this was in the past, he could have rolled out of the way, as he looks like he's under 50% equip.gaarafrednorris wrote:\
The trailer has our mysterious man just standing there as fire is breathed on him.
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Good job @gaarafrednorris, +1 to you sir.
And yes, now that you mentioned it, it's a good way to think of it. The knight may be Rendal. But that would mean this is before Dark Souls.
And yes, now that you mentioned it, it's a good way to think of it. The knight may be Rendal. But that would mean this is before Dark Souls.
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Well, Rendal's fate is not exactly known. All we know is that he failed to conquer Sen's, presumably some time after his kingdom of Balder fell victim to the Undead Curse.
He could have simply given up or died in the Fortress, but the fact there is a heavy Undead Knight presence in the Parish instead of Sen's (I counted 8 in the Parish and 3 in Sen's) constantly makes me think the former happened.
If anyone can check in the Depths for any signs of that vaulted seal being there (maybe chains or something) I'd really appreciate it.
He could have simply given up or died in the Fortress, but the fact there is a heavy Undead Knight presence in the Parish instead of Sen's (I counted 8 in the Parish and 3 in Sen's) constantly makes me think the former happened.
If anyone can check in the Depths for any signs of that vaulted seal being there (maybe chains or something) I'd really appreciate it.
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i think this could also be the firstborn mainly due to the fact that hes awesome
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Honestly guys, I think he's just being used as the "face" of the game. Said another way, he's not really anyone of significance, just the player character in an armor set you could find in-game for the purposes of having someone to show in trailers. They say he's the "main character" of Dark Souls 2 in their EDGE magazine interview. Now when we look at Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 1 and try to pinpoint a single character with which to associate with the game, for me I come up with:
Demon's Souls: "Fluted Armor Guy"
Dark Souls 1: "Elite Knight Armor Guy" (presumably Oscar)
They spiced up the trailers and kept the players being shown very diverse, but the community and alot of early official art seem to single this guy out:
So all that to say...maybe he's not really anybody important at all. Maybe he's just "Furry Shoulders Guy."
Demon's Souls: "Fluted Armor Guy"
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Dark Souls 1: "Elite Knight Armor Guy" (presumably Oscar)
They spiced up the trailers and kept the players being shown very diverse, but the community and alot of early official art seem to single this guy out:
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So all that to say...maybe he's not really anybody important at all. Maybe he's just "Furry Shoulders Guy."
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I doubt it's Gwyn or Rendall because they've stated it's a direct sequel.
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Dude I'm liking the reference to Knight King Rendal but i don't think its him. He doesn't play a big role in the Lore so far, so i don't see why they would insert him into the newest iteration when his only link is to Sens Fortress but then again its not impossible. They say he died, but what if he's undead? And making his way back to sens unaware that the Chosen Undead has already conquered it and become the dark lord? Its something to keep in mind alright its just i am doubtful about it.gaarafrednorris wrote:Right. I've been watching the trailer again.. and I have an idea.
That might not be Gwyn.. but someone else.
From the Ring of Steel Protection's Description:
"This ring belonged to the Knight King Rendal. It grants its wearer protection by boosting
defence against physical attacks. Of the many legends surrounding the Knight King Rendal,
one of the more well-known speaks of his standing down a giant drake and slashing it to pieces."
- Spoiler:
the design of this area on his helmet looks similar to that of the isignia on the Hoplite's shields in Demon Souls. If you remember, the insignia was also seen on flags in Boletaria 1-1, the Knights' Barracks..
While it was in Demon's Souls.. I still deem this to be relevant.
- Spoiler:
This area resembles a cape of sorts, which could have been worn by a member of royalty. Also, the armor of the man pictured on the helm looks like that of the man in the trailer.. perhaps if this IS Rendall, then he had it special made to do this as to commemorate one of his legends?
And now for setting ones.
- Spoiler:
look at the area closely. To me, this greatly looks like one of 2 areas in the Depths. Either the area with the bigass rat, or the one that led to Domhnall of Zena. The slimed area with the arrows pointing to them gave me this idea.
And the vault-like opening could be something that sealed off Blighttown if this is where Domnhall of Zena was.
Think about it. A ring that told a snippet about a Knight who fought a dragon, stood his ground, and slashed it to pieces.
The trailer has our mysterious man just standing there as fire is breathed on him.
The spear is a different shape and its from Demon Souls meaning they can't make direct reference to the Spear. The reason being they would be in legal trouble as a result. Its a bit stupid considering that Demon souls is From's game but i guess thats how the industry works.
I really like this inspecting the armour. I really think he might have an affiliation with the god from his armour. Everywhere you look on his armour, the markings look like flames, in contrast to the purpose of the warm clothing around it indicating cold weather.
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