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    Who is havel n why is he in burg? what is hea history?

    Post by Demon Slayer on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:29 pm

    I have always like havel but i don,t from where he comes or his history n why he is in the burg
    Another question is why does he have a dragontooth by weapon???
    Did he kill a dragon or somthing?
    Someone plz tell me


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    Re: Who is havel n why is he in burg? what is hea history?

    Post by Yukon on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:50 pm

    You can read what the community has gathered on him from doughboys "there's more to them thread" here's the snippet:
    DoughGuy wrote:
    Bishop havel the Rock (Again thanks to Tolvo for this one):
    Havel is an old member of Gwyn's military and possibly the strongest human in existence, if he is human that is. Over the years Havel grew a great love for the idea of martial skills, strength, endurance, and heavy armor. Due to this he grew to loath the vile magic of Seath the scaleless, and with his time even created miracles using unknown properties to combat magic. With this knowledge he passed it down to his warriors giving them the ability to easily combat magical foes without having to worry about their powerful sorceries tearing them
    apart. In regards to Havels prowess physically one need only look at his gear. The full Rock suit of armor, his massive shield, and tooth of an Everlasting Dragon. Something of note, Havel doesn't actually wear Havel's ring. That was a ring made for his soldiers so they could wear
    his armor, but the real Havel managed to carry all of this load with merely the muscles in his body, and still he can manage to run if need be. It goes without saying that while he does tend to rely on physical power, he has some interesting ties to miracles being the only known possible human to have created such magic. As well, he indeed fought in the war against the dragons and was quite successful. The question becomes though as to why he was eventually locked away. While it may seem it was too keep him out of trouble as a hollow, it almost seems a bit too convinient. Why that tower, why is the key held in the hands of that dead blacksmith? Maybe one should look to what is guarding that key, but a creature under the command of his rival, Seath. His title Bishop also gives him at least some sort of religious importance. Meaning more than likely he is related to the way of white, who are known for their clerics. Even more so a relation is that one of their clerics, Reah, can teach the miracles to others meaning it is at least
    taught within their church. It would also appear either he or a follower has left the scroll within the Ash Lake for an unknown reason. Odd that the spell of a man who slew dragons is found closest to the only known dragon outside of Seath. A place where the clams are also found that inhabit Seath's domain. Is it to be hidden away so that none could challenge him as Havel did? A powerful warrior capable of besting Everlasting dragons, a man of miracles working to fight magic, and a being of some relation to the church. Indeed too little is known of this giant of a man, given his influential status and lack of information.

    You can also read about him from the items: Great and plain Magic barrier, his armour and his weapon, the tower key, and a few others that aren't coming to mind.



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    Re: Who is havel n why is he in burg? what is hea history?

    Post by Djem on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:52 pm

    If you would like more info, as Yukon said before me I would check here:
    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t3151-there-s-more-to-them

    Edit: He changed his avatar, so no need to keep what I wrote earlier.


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    Re: Who is havel n why is he in burg? what is hea history?

    Post by Rarayn on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:57 pm

    It's not Havel. Both the description of Havel's armour and Havel's Ring suggests that the guy we fight in the Burg is one of Havel's Warriors, not Havel himself.

    Havel's Ring
    This ring was named after Havel the Rock,
    Lord Gwyn's old battlefield compatriot.

    Havel's men wore the ring to express faith in
    their leader and to carry a heavier load.

    Havel's Armor
    Armor worn by Havel the Rock's warriors.
    Carved from solid rock, its tremendous weight
    is matched only by the defense it provides.


    Havel's warriors never flinched nor retreated
    from battle. Those unfortunate enough to face
    them were inevitably beaten to a pulp.


    As for why he's there, you need only look to the description of the key that opens the door to that tower:

    Watchtower Basement Key
    Key to the basement of the watchtower in
    the Undead Burg.


    The basement of the watchtower forms a stone
    cell. There are rumors of a hero turned
    Hollow who was locked away by a dear friend.
    For his own good, of course.



    As an old compatriot of Lord Gwyn, he most likely gained the Dragon Tooth by fighting the dragons alongside him, possibly ripping the tooth out with his own bare hands because he's Havel.
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    Re: Who is havel n why is he in burg? what is hea history?

    Post by Demon Slayer on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:51 pm

    Thanks guys
    I finally know him!!


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    Re: Who is havel n why is he in burg? what is hea history?

    Post by Madara on Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:25 am

    This video is speculation but it seems to have a very convincing proof;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEUNbj0r7HQ

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