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    Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by tinypantha on Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:58 pm

    Well first off I made this post to Post MY Ideas and speculations in one location. Still feel free to post and criticize.



    first off the Trailer:

    The trailer shows me that the painted world will be back in the game but it has been dramaticly reformed (Pre or Post Priscilla) I can claim this by the snow on the ground and the bridge that you see in the trailer.

    Also the Porcelian mask when read in darksouls says that there are others that have a mask like it. So in my opinion the masked opponents in DKSII trailer are ciarans group of assassins.

    Dragons in head are going to be a main focus in DKSII. (Sadly)

    Dual wielding will be improved due to the fact that the hero in the trailer uses them.

    The Lady who hands the hero a feather imo is the ash maiden or a firekeeper none the less.

    Feathers will be a key point because if you compare the DKS Opening scene the firekeeper catches an ember and presses it against her chest or the undead cant remember very well, but the firekeeper in DKSII trailer presses a feather (maybe homeward Feather?) into the heros hand and off he goes on his perilous journey of death and despair.

    In an interview the lead for DKSII says that it will be a UNFAMILIAR world not a NEW so imo that means that it will be a dramaticly changed Annor Londo and main land Lordran.

    Classes will be able to chosen in the begining along with starting items imo. (no proof)





    Please note this is underconstruction.


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:12 pm

    Keep 'em coming, pantha. You've got some pretty good observations here.

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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by Argetlam350 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:17 pm

    You mean Lordblades with the porcelian masks? Well ENB has kind of covered that the Lordblade masks actually had the cyclops eyes and were all female and these assassin guys in the trailer look more like men (judging by figure and shape). So I don't think the masked fighters have any relation to Ciaran.

    Other then that though I like some of the other observations. Though the Painted World one I feel we need more evidence. Yes there's the bridge and snow but really, that could be a bridge between two cliffs in some realm for all we know. Just saying.


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by Infighter on Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:22 pm

    My speculation is:

    That the hero is trapped in painted world, and tries to escape. We can see dead dragons, and there was 1 undead dragon in painted world, and those masked assassin's are the old painted world guardians if we are assuming it's prequel

    The Lady most likely will guide the player, as maiden in black did it. We remember from dialogue in Dark Souls that firekeeper's stay with their flames and they never abandon it.

    I really don't have any ideas about dragons though, and what drives the main hero to do stuff or what he seeks for


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by Djem on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:16 pm

    Maybe it is not in the Painted World, but it is the actual place where Ariamis was influenced to paint the picture?

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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by bosslugger on Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:34 pm

    tinypantha wrote:
    The trailer shows me that the painted world will be back in the game but it has been dramaticly reformed (Pre or Post Priscilla) I can claim this by the snow on the ground and the bridge that you see in the trailer.

    Not necessarily. The bridge looks similar and there is snow on the ground, but we can also see snowy mountains in the opening shot. Not necessarily Ariamis.

    tinypantha wrote:
    Also the Porcelian mask when read in darksouls says that there are others that have a mask like it. So in my opinion the masked opponents in DKSII trailer are ciarans group of assassins.

    Wrong masks, and the assassins were women, as was pointed out by ENB. But I do believe there will be a new, badass class of assassins, like in Lower Undead Burg.

    tinypantha wrote:
    Dragons in head are going to be a main focus in DKSII. (Sadly)

    Wondering if this means a prequel, when dragons ruled the land. Would be interesting to explore how you came to be in Lordran. I always wondered this about Boletaria in DS, but we never got an explanation.

    tinypantha wrote:
    The Lady who hands the hero a feather imo is the ash maiden or a firekeeper none the less.

    I thought she might be a firekeeper too, but I'm not sure. I think Tomohiro Shibuya wants to take the game in a new direction, so we might not have firekeepers or bonfires in the next DkS.

    tinypantha wrote:
    Feathers will be a key point because if you compare the DKS Opening scene the firekeeper catches an ember and presses it against her chest or the undead cant remember very well, but the firekeeper in DKSII trailer presses a feather (maybe homeward Feather?) into the heros hand and off he goes on his perilous journey of death and despair.

    I wouldn't read too much into this. It was a great visual, but not sure how much symbolism of the story is actually there. Sounds like ENB wants to believe she's Velka, or a disciple of Velka, but he seems on the fence about it since she doesn't appear too vengeancey.
    I'm inclined to go with your ash maiden theory, in keeping with the Souls lore. Maybe the feather is used to summon her in times of need?

    tinypantha wrote:
    In an interview the lead for DKSII says that it will be a UNFAMILIAR world not a NEW so imo that means that it will be a dramaticly changed Annor Londo and main land Lordran.

    I don't think we're going back to Lordran. It might be a story about the journey TO Lordran, but frankly, if we're going back to the same location, why not just make more DLC? Additional/changed locations doesn't warrant a new game, IMO. A whole new world does.

    Just my .02
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    Post by tinypantha on Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:44 pm

    please read up on interviews above sir. " NEW multiplayer; NEW hero; UnFAMILIAR Land" what does the last one mean? well it means it is lordran in a different shape but still lordran... also please refrain from un spoilered long posts it takes up space


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by Seignar on Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:00 pm

    I highly doubt we are in Lordran. There is absolutely no evidence to say the events in the game take place in Lordran. If you take a look at Firelink, you'll notice that Anor Londo sits a top of a mountain surrounded by woods that existed for ages, among miles and miles of cities and great walls below. The castle in that trailer doesn't geographically have the space for all that.

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    Post by tinypantha on Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:27 pm

    time in lordran i distorted and also we dunno if its a prequel or a sequel


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by MasterofShadows on Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:37 pm

    I really really hope that dragons are not the main focus this time. That would be so unoriginal. I've been fine with the role they've played throughout the series. Hopefully, if they do become the main focus, FROM will do something unique with them.


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by bosslugger on Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:46 pm

    tinypantha wrote:please read up on interviews above sir. " NEW multiplayer; NEW hero; UnFAMILIAR Land" what does the last one mean? well it means it is lordran in a different shape but still lordran... also please refrain from un spoilered long posts it takes up space

    Wow, way to be hostile.
    Also, your points make no sense. I'm not sure how you get "we're in Lordran" from unfamiliar land.
    Further, I'm sorry reading is tedious for you. Life must be hard.

    Its a message board, and everyone is speculating wildly. Don't take everything so seriously. You asked for criticism, I gave it. Doesn't mean you're right, doesn't mean I'm right..


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by tinypantha on Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:56 pm

    ^

    No i am just tired of people claiming that speculations is like writing a bible. Also dont write a huge post on anothers topic unless you spoiler it bc it is just annoying not bc i dislike reading. now i say in the most un-sincere voice i can muster "Welcome to the forums"


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by bosslugger on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:00 am

    tinypantha wrote:^

    No i am just tired of people claiming that speculations is like writing a bible. Also dont write a huge post on anothers topic unless you spoiler it bc it is just annoying not bc i dislike reading. now i say in the most un-sincere voice i can muster "Welcome to the forums"

    I don't know what "unless you spoiler it" means.
    If you're frustrated with people commenting on your posts, perhaps a message board isn't the best place to spend your time.

    FWIW, I've been on these forums for a couple of years. I posted back on the old boards that FexDS ran (civilly, I might add). This one just seems filled with flamey hate trolls, so I'm not sure how much I'll post here.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:21 am

    Ciaran's Assassins are all women and from the stature and forms of the assassins I feel they are not women....


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by tinypantha on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:33 pm

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:Ciaran's Assassins are all women and from the stature and forms of the assassins I feel they are not women....
    True but i hope they are.


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    Post by Raem on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:17 pm

    In the official trailer there is a videomarker that says ,,Defeat the Dragons! Join us" and when clicked it redirects to namcoBandais Youtube channel.

    SO I think Dragons will be the main point of the game.
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    Post by tinypantha on Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:40 pm

    ^ i will cry tonight


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    Re: Tinypantha's Speculations

    Post by fellipe000 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:00 pm

    Maybe that dragon skull at 01:04 is the one that havel made his weapon big grin

    just a thought...

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