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    Still Lagstabbing huh

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    Post by Needles_Kane Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:02 pm

    I took a break from souls, and I recently picked it back up to play the dlc. When I read and checked up on all the updates that came with it, the lagstab was supposed to be improved, but it seems to be worse than I remember. I'm rocking havel's shield and the same guy in three fights would literally stab at my shield once,walk around and casually stab me in the back. Three times. Till dead. Also ppl rolling directly through Aoe's, and backstabbing. Rolling is for dodging, not a temporary invincibility, but ppl seem to be rolling right through a Wog or Moonlight greatsword shot. And the classic standing in front while stabbing me in the back is still pretty bad.So if we had a vote to have the back stab eliminated completely, i would vote yes. Anyway, I know the lagstab has been thoroughly discussed , I was just wondering if the general consensus was that it's worse, better, same since the Dlc.
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    Post by RANT Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:08 pm

    its the same and maybe dont wog too close to your opponent? rolling through it and punishing with a bs is the best you can do against wog. if youre med'fat rolling you better have a weapons with a wide arc to punish fishers, the best thing to do is unlock and aim your attack towards the angle theyre coming from, even if you dont have a weapon that has a wide arc or can dead angle you will hi them and punish their bs attempt. ad i really dont get this 'rolling is for dodging' it makes no sense imo.

    edit; this game is not desingned to be a pvp game, do not take it so seriously, the less serious you take it the more fun you'll have.
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    Post by PlasticandRage Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:15 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
    edit; this game is not desingned to be a pvp game, do not take it so seriously, the less serious you take it the more fun you'll have.

    This isn't a lesson I really learned until I came back from my souls hiatus. Boy is it a great one. I've been having such a better time than I did before.
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    Post by callipygias Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:59 pm

    Don't take this the wrong way, op, but if you're using Havel's greatshield you'll probably encounter even more bs fishers than normal (which is plenty!). You stand there with your shield up and you're pretty much invincible to standard melee; blocking eats very little stamina, too.
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    Post by Mr.Pickle Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:55 pm

    Rolling kinda has invincibility frames on it, so when you say something like rolls are for dodging and not for invincibility...that doesn't make any sense. I think your problem comes from you being unable to adjust to the lag in pvp, you just got to think a little farther ahead when pvping. Also I loled at the the whole, "this game isn't designed to be a pvp game", comment. Its important, it just got half assed.
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    Post by RANT Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:06 am

    Mr.Pickle wrote:Rolling kinda has invincibility frames on it, so when you say something like rolls are for dodging and not for invincibility...that doesn't make any sense. I think your problem comes from you being unable to adjust to the lag in pvp, you just got to think a little farther ahead when pvping. Also I loled at the the whole, "this game isn't designed to be a pvp game", comment. Its important, it just got half assed.

    it got half assed because its not that important to the developers because its not what they were going for. i mean coop'ing and invading, do you reeally think they put a lot of though into how spells, weapons, rings etc are balanced on a pvp scenario? look at all the spells thatcould ohko you with no buffs at all. the only reason they got nerfed was because the pvp community is a lot more vocal than the pve community because they dont care about that.
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    Post by LunarFog Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:28 pm

    PlasticandRage wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:
    edit; this game is not desingned to be a pvp game, do not take it so seriously, the less serious you take it the more fun you'll have.

    This isn't a lesson I really learned until I came back from my souls hiatus. Boy is it a great one. I've been having such a better time than I did before.

    I've never taken the PvP seriously. Stuff happens that shouldn't have way too often for that. Even if it's in my favor.

    Also, regarding OP, rolling is also for invincibility. Can you imagine how useless and unable it would be to DODGE without the invincibility frames? Come on now.

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