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    Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:40 pm

    Hey guys I really need help with my build.My souls level is 93.
    Here is a list of my current stats:

    Str:42
    Dex:19
    End:29
    Vit:35
    Faith:11
    Int:10
    Att:12
    Res:19

    Also the weapons I am using are:
    Black Knight Greataxe +5
    Giant Halberd +5
    Shield:Giant Shield +4
    Pyromancy Flame

    Armor:
    Mask of the Child and the rest of the Giants armor +4

    Any advice or tips on how I should build further?

    Thanks big grin

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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:49 pm

    Seems like a Ganker build if you ask me...


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:50 pm

    Is that a good thing?
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:55 pm

    Since Gankers are one of the most hated types of players...I would say no.


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:57 pm

    Ouch so what should I do?
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:01 pm

    Give him a break Jester. Not everyone is part of the community actively, so obviously not everyone is aware of what's liked and what isn't. At least he's asking.

    The issue that Jester's having, and that a lot of people would have, is that your equipment choices are often used by people who play not so nicely. The Black Knight GA for example, can be a very cheap weapon, the masks are often the targets of jokes, and the Giant's set is often associated with both of those things. It's commonly seen as being pretty ugly, but with super high defensive values, while most of us choose things based on both how we like to look and our defensive stats. It all depends on how you want to play.

    As far as practical advice goes, I couldn't really advise gear without knowing what you're trying to accomplish with your build. If you're happy with the BKGA, then you should keep using it IMO, but if hearing that a lot of players frown on it, and you like the heavy damage weapons, maybe try an Ultra Greatsword. I've been using the Zwiehander a lot lately and getting fantastic results. With your high STR and decent DEX, if you pumped another few points into DEX and went +14 or 15 with a Zweihander you'd do great damage with it. As far as stats, I'd recommend that you stop pumping points into RES. I've seen some testing results done that showed that it's increases don't do a whole lot. You could also definitely benefit from some more endurance


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:02 pm

    Become a STR, Fast roller. Use weapons with High Str Scaling (Look trough wiki, no examples right now) and boost your Endurance for Equip load.

    Use Giants gauntles with light armor since they have poise and become good with Dead-Angle. Light Gear + Heavy Weapons is good in PvP if you know what you're doing. In PvE, everything works.


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:04 pm

    I can't see how this would be a ganker build. Gankers use all kinds of builds, and as long as you don't gank, you'll be fine.

    Could you post the build through this? It's a lot easier to "rate" it then.

    Be careful when you use the BKGA, since is very easy to parry. Don't attack more than once, and kick them a lot. Watch out for blind parries (when they parry as soon a you run up to them, hoping for you to attack).
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:09 pm

    Spurgun wrote:I can't see how this would be a ganker build. Gankers use all kinds of builds, and as long as you don't gank, you'll be fine.

    Could you post the build through this? It's a lot easier to "rate" it then.

    Be careful when you use the BKGA, since is very easy to parry. Don't attack more than once, and kick them a lot. Watch out for blind parries (when they parry as soon a you run up to them, hoping for you to attack).

    Full Giants and BKGA is standard Ganking Gear...You don't see too many of them but before the patch, the place was crawling with them...


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:10 pm

    Yes, but that doesn't mean that he can't use them. Nothing wrong with using powerful gear.
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:12 pm

    What rings are you using? It looks like you're probably fat rolling with that equipment/stats, which means you could go more endurance, and possible go for a ring of favor and protection, and get your character medium rolling. You might have to switch to a smaller shield to do that though. It depends on what armors you ultimately go with.


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:17 pm

    I think you could switch to a smaller shield (as Plastic said), you will be able to parry, and the small shields weigh a lot less. The silver knight shield has a lot of stability/resistances, so maybe you could use it?

    I think you should be med rolling with that setup, fast rolling would require way too much end, but you can med roll with a lot less end and havels ring. It's also possible to dodge WoG/sorcery with med roll (you can also do it with fat roll, but it's very hard)

    I just repeated what Plastic said, but lets ignore that.
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:23 pm

    ^ The Silver Knight shield is a good recommendation. I think it's becoming my favorite shield. That of the Grass Crest. Just a good all around shield


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:28 pm

    PlasticandRage wrote:^ The Silver Knight shield is a good recommendation. I think it's becoming my favorite shield. That of the Grass Crest. Just a good all around shield

    Isen't the Black Knight shield better? It only wieghts 0,5 more then Silver Knight (if i remember)


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:33 pm

    Ok so what should I wear as weapons?

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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:34 pm

    Bk shield has a little bit less stability (doesn't make a difference). And it has 95% res against fire (makes a huge difference). It a less mag defense as well. There isn't that much of a difference between them. I just prefer the SK shield
    I would say use the SK shield, but change to the BK shield when you meet a pyro.

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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:37 pm

    CrazedNightWolf wrote:Ok so what should I wear as weapons?

    Anything you think works for you. The BKGA is a strong weapon, as long as you can watch out for parries. I wouldn't use the giants halberd though, you would be better of with a chaos gargoyle halberd.
    Pretty much any weapon in DkS will be viable in PvP, so it really matter which weapon you chose to use.
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:38 pm

    Ok and which armor?
    And what should i upgrade(eg. Dex or En)?

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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:40 pm

    Depends on if you want a lot of armor and move slower, or less armor and move faster. And what you think looks good (it matter more than you might think silly)

    Where are you going to cap your build? sl 120, 200 or more?
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:42 pm

    Should I cap it?
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by PlasticandRage on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:44 pm

    It depends on what you want out of playing. Do you PvP a lot? Most of us who like to PvP cap at either 100 or 120, to stay within in range of where most players seem to stop.


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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:46 pm

    I think I'm going to cap it?

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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:46 pm

    Depends. You can keep leveling it up all the way to max if you want and you will still get PvP, but leveling up beyond sl 360 isn't worth it, since you've capped all stats t sl (assuming you put the points into the right stats). sl 120 is the "unofficial" cap for dueling, but invading works at any sl. And the forest will always be active (no sl restrictions).

    Edit. And the cap for dueling isn't really at sl 120. There are lots of people who go beyond/below that.
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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by CrazedNightWolf on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:47 pm

    Then I'll carry on to 360.
    On what stats should I focus?

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    Re: Help with my build

    Post by Spurgun on Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:53 pm

    Woops. the cap is 380, not 360.
    This is what the stats should look like when it's done.
    I would raise vit to 50 and end to 40, then you can raise whatever you think you need the most at the moment.

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