all of the exact level ranges / matchmaking formulas for the multiplayer items

fujiphoenix wrote:Wow, that's quite the level difference, and in the wrong direction too O_o

yea which is why i said i think the rules only apply if theres someone in human form in your range in the area, if not it may give you someone you normally couldnt invade

Then why does my blue eye orb only work like 15% of the time?

fujiphoenix wrote:Then why does my blue eye orb only work like 15% of the time?

15%? You must be very lucky

Wasn't there some theory that if the DM had sin, the level range would shift the other direction? If there wasn't, then that's now my theory.

idk just thats the only reason i can think of that i could invade a 125 with a 70 (we were doing this in the tunnel before the chimeras

That's very odd. I'll try and do some more testing to see if I can replicate it.

When I was finding the upper-limit of the level range before, I basically just did a ton of invasions of kept track of the amount of souls dropped by hosts to find their level (tested at a couple different levels, and found what appeared to be consistent). I did invading in lower-traffic places and also at odd hours sometimes, so I would think I would've already encountered the 'if no one else is around' thing by now.

But I'll keep this in mind and play around with it. I have a new SL1 character on a fresh PSN without sin that I'm planning to use for a bunch of sin/ Blue Eye Orb testing...

CarverUpqik wrote:me and my friend did some tests and i invaded him with the blue eye orb (i was 70) and he was 125 so i think that the rules only apply when theres someone in human form in range in the area if not they will pair you with whoever is around

Hmm... I finally got around to doing a bunch more testing and couldn't replicate this. I'm thinking it may have been a glitch or some kind of error was made.

I now have quite a large sample size to support my original formula for the Blue Eye Orb. 

This isn't all the data I have, just the most recent... I picked a new level I hadn't done before (90), which predicted that level 109 would be the max level I could invade. I found exactly that, and given the popularity of the SL 120 - 125 PvP range, I surely should have invaded up to those levels at some point if it were possible. With over 100 hosts logged, I've hit level 109 a couple times but never higher.

souls dropped by host | their level (x's = repeat occurrences):

339 - 23
427 - 26 x
458 - 27
490 - 28 x
556 - 30 x
701 - 34 x
740 - 35
821 - 37
950 - 40
995 - 41 x
1089 - 43
1290 - 47 x
1397 - 49 xx
1453 - 50 xx
1510 - 51 x
1568 - 52 x
1627 - 53 x
1688 - 54
1749 - 55
1812 - 56 x
1942 - 58
2009 - 59 xx
2077 - 60 xx
2147 - 61
2290 - 63
2439 - 65 xxx
2593 - 67 xxx
2672 - 68 x
2753 - 69
2918 - 71
3003 - 72 x
3178 - 74
3358 - 76
3451 - 77
3640 - 79 x
3737 - 80 x
3936 - 82 x
4038 - 83
4142 - 84 x
4247 - 85 xx
4353 - 86
4912 - 91
5029 - 92 x
5147 - 93 x
5268 - 94 xxx
5390 - 95 xxx
5639 - 97
5766 - 98 xx
5895 - 99 xx
6026 - 100 xxxxxxx
6159 - 101 xx
6293 - 102 xxxxx
6430 - 103 x
6568 - 104 x
6850 - 106 xx
6993 - 107
7139 - 108 x
7287 - 109 x

That is correct, I wrote that myself and forgot to edit the OP here! I'll do that in a second.

Sin impacting the level range was disproven, through extensive testing using very different methods (by myself, and also by someone else with a friend on PC). Post number 12 in this thread mentions it.

It is surprisingly just a fixed level range based on the invader's level after all. It's minus "50 + 20%".

edit:

Whoops, forgot to address the rounding. You're exactly right about the rounding and calculation. Level 63 Darkmoon can invade level 1, but Level 64 can't.

For those who may be unaware, the way the level range rounding works is that the decimal place is always truncated (or rounded down), before the rest of the calculation is made.

For example, a level 49 player trying to find out their range uses +/- 14, because the "10 + 10%" of the formula is actually just "10 + 4", not "10 + 4.9".

So in the case you mentioned, 20% of 64 is 12.8 That gets rounded down to 12, and then 50 is added to it. You get 62, and 64 - 62 = 2.

I just edited this into the 'general' section of the OP as well.

Great work man, really impressive stuff working all this out.

I've finally bucked up and put this on the "Online Play" Page of the wiki. Thanks for the information

Thanks! I noticed a couple errors though, a few of them had the "-" minus sign truncated when it got copied over, so the formulas don't quite make sense. I think this happened on the Red Sign Soapstone, Red Eye Orb, and Cat Covenant Ring.

To bad the blue orb still works like the red ones autistic half cousin. At level 100, I can only get it to work 1 out of 15 times in Sen's Funhouse in the middle of the day. My level 200 can get it to work the same amount of times in the Oolicile Township. why hasn't FROM fixed this shiznit yet?

The only place my blue eye orb seemed to actually work 1 out of 3 times was in the painted world for some odd reason. Had a sl 135 darkmoon and it invaded there better than anywhere else consistantly