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    Eliminate parry and backstab entirely?

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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by aceluby on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:31 pm

    CaligoIllioneus wrote:Yes, the variety of this game's build would be hurt so much without the creative BKGA hornet builds....you are right.

    Also, why would changing backstabs hurt the PvE aspect? The enemies that can be backstabbed can be absolutely trivialized by simply holding up a shield and strafing around them.

    Regardless of what builds would be lost removing backstabs means mages, pyros, and WotG spammers have nothing to worry about when casting except maybe being interrupted. This, along w/ the ultra powerful dark magic would more than likely lead to seeing the same builds over and over again in the same way you saw the BKGA hornet builds during the first few months. Now there are less.... why? Because more builds are viable and like I said originally, we should be looking to expand viable builds, not remove them.

    Regarding the PvE aspect, I'm thinking mainly the silver knights, black knights, havel, the butchers, etc... but heck, even the hollows at low level are best taken down w/ a backstab or parry. Now, you may like trivially holding your shield while strafing and slashing at every single enemy in the exact same way, but to me that sounds utterly boring. But my main point is that there shouldn't be a change to the core part of the game (single player, PvE) because of PvP.

    However, I am all about finding solutions and I think this could easily be accounted for by expanding the Arena. You could have a section of hosts that set up games in a way they like and if people want to join they can, so if you want a 'no backstab' game, you simply create one and wait for someone to join.


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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:39 pm

    You can just host fights on the elevator in anor londo.............shouldn't have a problem getting matches and there are no critical animations, but parries still deal bonus damage (though not as much)


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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by callipygias on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:48 pm

    After all this time I still enjoy parry/rip's, and backstabs can be pretty cool too, so I vote keep them. But I hate seeing otherwise good, experienced players (ENB [vs. Havel] I'm looking at you!) endlessly circle enemies till they get the bs.


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    Post by GkMrBane on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:49 pm

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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by VinheimProfessor on Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:13 pm

    I don't mind parrying. I think backstab needs to be tweaked. Wearing a shield on your back should protect you from backstabs.


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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by Marino. on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:38 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:You can just host fights on the elevator in anor londo.............shouldn't have a problem getting matches and there are no critical animations, but parries still deal bonus damage (though not as much)

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    Post by The Wandering Knight on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:40 pm

    removing them would make the game boring (combat wise) for me.


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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by Marino. on Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:45 pm

    You know i never really Battled without using Backstabs . Dont get me wrong i dont fish for them i just use them as a part of my Battle Style .


    Maybe i should have a fight or two on that Elevator
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    Re: Eliminate parry and backstab? FINISHED

    Post by Abiathar82 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:12 pm

    VinheimProfessor wrote:I don't mind parrying. I think backstab needs to be tweaked. Wearing a shield on your back should protect you from backstabs.

    ^ This , if this doesnt make sense to you then well ...... I hope you beleive 1+1 = 2.


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