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    crystal weapons

    Post by RANT on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:55 pm

    i think weapons that get upgraded to the crystal path should have crystals in them, if the shields have them why not the weapons, my machete would look awesome and more intimidating with crystals coming out of it.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by meridam99 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:37 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:i think weapons that get upgraded to the crystal path should have crystals in them, if the shields have them why not the weapons, my machete would look awesome and more intimidating with crystals coming out of it.

    I for one am happy your machete does not look more intimidating, otherwise I would need to wear "Depends".

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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:38 pm

    All the shields get crystals?

    Hmm...


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by RANT on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:48 pm

    lol @meridam
    @blaine not sure but the knight shield you pick up in duke's has some crystals sticking out of it.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:09 pm

    Ah damn, if you're talking about that one I guess they don't.

    Shame... I wanted to make myself an assortment of crystallized shields!


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by Demi_God0415 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:22 pm

    that would definitely look bad*ss. they already have the appearance the crystal weapons (crystal zombie weapons) why not make it be aswell with other crystal weapons forged. the crystal halberd you'll pick up will have crystal protruding on it or maybe make it shiny hence being crystalized.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:27 pm

    DLC!

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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by JY4answer on Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:34 am

    Crystal weapons are useful if its a weapon you can mass-purchase and if you don't buff. It will perform better than normal weapons. Just saying.
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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:38 am

    but.. crystal stuff can be buffed, even that crappy sword the crystal hollows drop.. in caroso's massive damage vids he used buffed crystal weapons... (greataxe etc.)


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by Whknight on Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:44 am

    I think he ment the buyable crystal stuff, but I don't really like any of the crystal weapons... then again for the longsword I don't think a +4 crystal does much better than a +15 normal. I never noticed the shield having crystals on it, I'll have to check this out tomorrow.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:57 am

    i've enchanted a crystal greatsword i bought from domnall for the gaping dragon fight. was pretty effective.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by Whknight on Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:59 am

    Oh cool, wasn't aware both types were buffable. Maybe I'll try the GS then for laughs.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by RANT on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:03 am

    theyre actually the most powerful even without buff, i sue a crystal machete for the fight club. im still not sure, can they be repaired with the repair spell?


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by Whknight on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:08 am

    I think only the armor is repairable and only by the spell. The only way to repair a crystal weapon is by upgrading I believe, the main reason I don't bother using them.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:14 am

    I've been trying to get the community to fill in all the info for weapons at their second to last upgrade level for every upgrade path, and one good use for that would be comparing crystal weapons to regular ones. Since you don't want to waste a slab on a crystal weapon, the only viable way to use them would be to keep making new ones all the time and using them at +4 (assuming you use a weapon that can always be purchased, which is a problem in itself). But since using a slab on a regularly upgraded weapon makes sense, you have to compare Crystal +4 with Regular +15.

    I brought up all the stuff about trying to collect all the data (not to guilt trip you guys, I swear!) because the only weapon that has the information for Crystal +4, at the moment, is the Halberd, so I have to use that one as example for my point. It's actually a good example, though, since it has a fairly high damage rating, so the difference between the two will be more drastic. (You can't buy them, though... but that's not relevant to my current point!) So:

    Regular Halberd +15 = 275 D C (Str/ Dex scaling)
    Crystal Halberd +4 = 286 D C

    So, assuming there's a purchasable weapon that you like, every time you need a replacement one you need to:
    1. Buy it again
    2. Go to Andrei to upgrade to +6
    3. Go to Giant BSmith to upgrade to Crystal +4

    Assuming you have all the materials, of course... every time.

    So, all that, for 11 points of damage rating.

    You could save time by making multiple ones at once, but then you just need to farm more materials all at once. I don't know about you, but that's not worth it to me! Also, keep in mind that buffing spells add a static amount, so the difference after buff will still be 11 points, only it'll be on about 500-600 damage rating.

    Sorry for the wall of text, I just needed to get this out there!


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by BLA1NE on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:18 am

    And another point, for the comments that were added while I was writing my wall:

    There is no way to repair crystal weapons. Trust me on that!

    Whknight is correct in saying that you can "repair" them by upgrading them, but then that means using them at less than +4, which is weaker than regular +15 anyways at this point. So save yourself the trouble! And while you can repair them by upgrading them, be aware that you can not de-upgrade them. So don't make the mistake of upgrading a rare weapon (Iaito, for example) along the crystal path thinking you can de-upgrade it and upgrade it again every time to repair it. You can't. You'll just ruin your 1 Iaito you get for that playthrough.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by Whknight on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:22 am

    I'll see what I can add when I'm able to, may take a few days to get to endgame. I had forgotten about the decraft bit, but glad you cleared that up.


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    Re: crystal weapons

    Post by RANT on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:22 am

    demons grea machete +15= 332 A
    crystal machete+5= 359 A

    its actually not that much, i have it at +14 and i was gonna take it up to +15 since i have 5 slabs from farming for chunks, since it cant be repaired i guess im not gonna max it out.


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