Mid-roll build viability

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    Mid-roll build viability

    Post by petals18 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:26 pm

    I would like to get some input from people who are running mid-roll builds post patch, are they working for you? If so, what tactics are you using? Or would you recommend just sticking to fast roll builds?

    I am wanting to do a black knight build, have some decent armor and big weapons for once, all I seem to do are dex builds recently.

    I had a str/faith pre patch, but then I had the DWGR . . . . . I don't want to get to sl99 and find it's a waste, so opinions/experiences would be appreciated so I can make a decision.

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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by zivbu9 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:12 pm

    one thing you should keep in mind when you are medioum rolling is never roll if you don't have to. the recovery time for the medioum roll is much larger than the fast roll or the ninja flip. you should also go with high poise armor so you don't get stunlocked.
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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by AzureCrow on Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:16 pm

    It's easier if your using a weapon that can maintain distance and has high damage preferably with a good roll move so that your opponent won't try pressuring you then you roll.

    I have a high level toon with Murakumo, CMW, and heavy armor at just under 50% weight and I haven't had any issues. Just focus on keeping your ground and only roll to dodge not attack.


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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by SillentShadow on Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:49 pm

    Mid roller here. Its fine. You will learn too maneuver with it. High poise is a obvious must but that again with havels ring you can easily wear havels set and be a mid roller.....
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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by Juutas on Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:35 pm

    110% viable.
    You can have good defences all around, good dmg and good poise at the same time on lvl 100 when midrolling, I usually destroy when I decide to midroll.

    EDIT: One thing to be really scared when midrolling though: Dark magic.


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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by AzureCrow on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:27 pm

    You need to get alot of practice against dark magic, ideally both using and receiving in pvp and you can dodge any spell excluding lag. The best tricks I could find is that dark bead won't hit if your strafing and roll sideways at mid to close distance and pursuers can be tricked if you backstep then sidestep and roll forward or back through it while its coming at you diagonally. It seems the invincibility frames on the mid roll continue much closer to the recovery than one would presume.


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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by DarkW17 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:57 am

    Mid rolling is very viable but if your giving up mobility you need to get more dmg output in return.....obviously you will be able to stack up poise 53-70 isn't a problem at sl99 to still mid roll....but back to more dmg use 'LEO RING' and a halbert for instance paired with a long sword or Balder swag is a lethal setup!

    1 counter poke with a halbert will do more dmg than a BS....of course you need a quality or dex build to use the leo ring...that's really the only time I mid roll!

    Oh and like someone else said don't roll much and avoid weapons that have good rolling attacks ect!


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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by petals18 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:49 am

    Thank you all for the input, I've got it worked out now, not exactly what I was looking for but I'm gonna run with it anyway.

    Starting Class - Warrior

    SL-98 Black Night

    40 VIT

    8 ATT

    57 END

    27 STR

    20 DEX

    11 RES

    9 INT

    9 FAI

    RH1 - Black Knight Greataxe +5

    LH1 - Grass Crest Shield +15

    RH2 - Bare Fist

    LH2 - Goughs Greatbow +5

    Head - Naked

    Chest - Black Knight Armor +5

    Hands - Black Knight Gauntlets +5

    Legs - Black Knight Leggings +5

    Poise - 82

    Ring Slot 1 - Wolf Ring

    Ring Slot 2 - Ring of Favour and Protection

    0.2 Weight to spare! I do like to cut it close mind.lol
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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by XachAttack on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:30 pm

    The Black Knight Greataxe might be a bad idea, it's one of the easiest weapons to parry so alot of people might not take you seriously.


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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by RANT on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:35 pm

    XachAttack wrote:The Black Knight Greataxe might be a bad idea, it's one of the easiest weapons to parry so alot of people might not take you seriously.

    itss only easy if you spam r1, if you ever go up against someone it that knows how to use it youre gonna be in big trouble.


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    Re: Mid-roll build viability

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:05 pm

    I tried to get good classy armor and 93 poise but it's very difficult without increasing End past 40. I had to decrease Vit to 40 but a medium roll tank should have high HP for tanking hits. You'll be menu swapping the greatbow btw.

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