My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

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    My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by BrotherBob on Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:41 pm

    So, the story is like this. My favorite build has 28 STR, 20 DEX, 50 INT, and 8 FTH. So how do I counter the aforementioned spells? I could try to roll dodge, but I'm maddeningly inconsistent at it. I don't have the Faith to use GMB and I don't have the Strength to use a high Magic RES shield in my left hand.

    So what did I do? I recently encountered a player who used Pursuers and WoG as their primary offensive. This has happened several times to me, but this was the first time I used the tactic I'll describe below. With my build, I decided to equip a Stone Greatshield 2-handed and block. I took three sets of Pursuers (which knocked out half of my stamina each time) and five WoG (which did laughably against my health and stamina as I kept the shield up). Anyway, he ran out of spells, switched to a Dragonslayer Spear and tried to kill what was left of me (~40% of my health left). I pulled out a Murakumo and killed this glass cannon. God, I love this build now!


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by BrotherBob on Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:51 pm

    Just used the same tactic against another player, but this guy was spamming Dark Bead. The guy went through five casts while I strafed to the side so I wouldn't get hit with all the projectiles. It hardly dented 15% of my health. He did end up winning however because I got sloppy with my attacking after he ran out of casts.


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by vatar5 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:54 pm

    Hmm...I love to 2HKO with CSS and CSM while poising a Dark Bead like a baws.


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by BrotherBob on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:00 pm

    Yeah, the Stone Greatshield just eats those spells like bullets on a tank.


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by Seignar on Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:13 pm

    Honestly, I though you were going to say "Hidden Body" on pursuers or Great Magic Barrier.

    But, if you are going shield tanking those things. Then I am disappoint. Clearly, you should have just grabbed a Crystal Heater Shield +5, enchanted it with Strong Magic Shield and just laughed at him (Strong Magic Shield increases stability by 30 and raises resistances to 100%).

    If you weren't in the mood to get costy, just do it with the Balder Shield +15.


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by BrotherBob on Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:18 am

    I've tried all the shields I can (not Magic Shield though), but I've been having such a good time trolling the players who love using those spells. I literally can stand there with my Stone Greatshield and laugh at the ineffectiveness of WoG, take two sets of Pursuers head on without putting my shield down, eat a "shotgun blast" (Dark Bead) without two much worry.

    Now that I think about it though, if I recall correctly, Magic Shield lasts only a little while and takes a while to cast. Given the fact that my opponent may not use up all his spells in that time or may start casting before I can finish casting the buff, the shield buff is not that practical.


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by BrotherBob on Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:08 pm

    Just to point something that I've now realized after fighting more Dark Magic users. A lot of glass cannons like to attack right out of the gate; they start spamming as you spawn. So, GMB is out of the question. Roll dodging is fine if you can do it in time. Thus, I think blocking is the only sure way to avoid dying right from the start.


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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by SillentShadow on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:33 pm

    You can also use GMB as soon as you get invaded or invade. Works for me, usually they wait until i am out of GMB but only very few survive to this point.

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    Re: My Preferred Way of Countering Dark Magic

    Post by BrotherBob on Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:31 pm

    You have the time to cast the spell? I often get hit by Pursuers and Dark Bead right as I spawn as an invader at the Kiln.


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