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    4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:09 pm

    So 4 Kings + Dark Magic = Dead Kings. I just managed to fight 3 Kings by myself for the first time with the use of dark magic. I cast Pursuers as each was spawning then ran in close and blasted each one with a close range Dark Bead, so that both spells ended up hitting around the same time. I was just thinking, has anyone ever managed to pull of a 2 Kings fight? I'm figuring if it's possible this is the way it's going to happen. If there were 2 of us, or even 3 of us, all fighting them this way, I would think we could pull it off if it's possible. Anybody into trying? Obviously you would have to summon me, as I just killed mine.
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:56 pm

    You mean like coop 2-3 players letting the second king spawn then starting the fight? I'm sure its been done but you would need to be spamming attacks to pull it off. The kings get a HUGE boost with just one summon and it seams to increase a second time for 2 phantoms, then there is the issue of even when engaged in melee the kings have a diabolical case of A.D.D. that causes them to randomly aggro and fire their homing deathmass at someone else.

    Essentially your looking to create the single most difficult situation in dark souls and subjugate 2 more people to it, I'm in!


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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:59 pm

    No I mean doing so much damage so quickly so that only 2 of the kings have a chance to spawn.

    I've only ever seen it happen with 3. Like you hit them so hard that it takes from the life of the 4th one before he can even appear and they just die, but previously I've only seen it when there's a full summon roster rocking them at once, and I'm thinking because I was just able to do it alone, with the damage output of a single player, that if we added 1 or 2 more to that we might be able to subtract another king. I just don't know if it can be done.
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:19 pm

    AHH Well given the difficulty of killing just 3 it might require 3 players with full power within hypermode and crown of dusk at sl 1 with +5 ascended flames, wear each king down to next to nothing them spam chaos pyromancy the second the red ring activates, flask and repeat, you'd probably need dusk crown rings as well so it'd basically turn into a perfect challenge run.


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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:22 pm

    You think pyro over sorcery? I've always found sorcery to work pretty damn well against them.

    Well yeah I guess if we were going to try at SL1 pyro would make more sense
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:34 pm

    I'm thinking in terms of getting the highest damage to health ratio against them, I know they scale health and damage with the player like other bosses however they seem to have the highest boost from co-op so its likely at the levels required to max out abyss sorcery and achieve the highest damage in the game their health (or perhaps defense?) would be astronomical.

    It's most likely not something players are intended to be able to do so it may even require adding in the +3 dragon roar buff, I'm thinking game breaking damage.


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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:38 pm

    I could see that, that'd be A LOT of work just to try one little thing though. Everyone participating would have to do SL1 run through's
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by ublug on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:41 pm

    PlasticandRage wrote:No I mean doing so much damage so quickly so that only 2 of the kings have a chance to spawn.
    There's a few vids out there that shows how to kill the first king only.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_aH8vCPWc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XItIfMqey-M (co-op)
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:45 pm

    wow I've been fighting these things on NG+ too long aha I never realized they linger for so long after they die. lol!
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:52 pm

    ublug wrote:
    PlasticandRage wrote:No I mean doing so much damage so quickly so that only 2 of the kings have a chance to spawn.
    There's a few vids out there that shows how to kill the first king only.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_aH8vCPWc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XItIfMqey-M (co-op)

    My god. This must be done. Immediately. I'm making a new build.
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:55 pm

    I love that they're using the trident dance for an actual reason. It makes me happy


    Edit: It'd be fun to try something like this on invincible Seath. I don't think you can summon in the archives before he kills you though.
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by AzureCrow on Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:03 pm

    I don't think you can actually melee him, you could in theory perform the elevator shortcut then summon and backtrack but there's probably a fog wall somewhere in there or else it would of been done...


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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:12 pm

    You wouldn't necessarily need to melee. You could just buff a powerful ranged attack as much as possible. I don't think it's possible either. Even if it was I seriously doubt you'd get anywhere, aside from seeing his life bar shoot down really far before just seeing it shoot all the way back up. What's the elevator short cut?


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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by ublug on Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:41 pm

    Seath will still be in the first location after you leave the prison. I know you can enter and leave through the fog to collect your bloodstain if he killed you there earlier. Don't know if you can bring phantoms inside there though.

    Have anyone actually been able to one-shot Seath? Can't remember if it was in igbx's challenge videos.
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    Re: 4 Kings Demise Experiment

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:47 pm

    You can leave back through that fog gate if you go back after he kills you? :x
    That means all the souls and humanity I've accidentally sacrificed to that death before have essentially been sacrificed voluntarily. I didn't realize you could go back for them and not just be killed again so I've always just played on and left them there, or popped on a ring of sacrifice so I didn't lose them to begin with. What a waste.

    I've never seen a 1HKO Seath video. I think the only Lord boss I've ever seen 1HKO'd was Nito.

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