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    Re: The great search

    Post by Tornesol on Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:53 pm

    Alright.

    So this is what I have been thinking about.

    In the create a new char page, when you choose starting gift, notice that there is a blank field? but it has the same symbol on the right side as the rest of the gifts? the gifts then, when included the blank field, to 9.
    The starting classes are 10.
    And the urns in the kiln are 9. (1 large)
    There are 9 covenants.
    And the maximum characters you can create are 10...

    So this is what im thinking.. (if you got anything to prove me otherwise, be my guest)
    If we go by the fact that perhaps the urns can be lit, I think everthing is connected.. Class, gift, covenant. So if you complete the game the "right way" you get a urn lit.
    Example: a pyromancer in the chaos covenant (+3) links the fire. (?)

    Perhaps that lit urn carrys over to a new character? Then you will have 10 classes (exeption for the deprived who has no obvious conection to anything imo, exept the 10th urn?) to connect to the right covenant and ending. And you will have 10 character slots to do that in..
    What do you guys think? quite odd right?

    Tomorrow I will come back to the kiln with my pyromancer on NG+ to see if a urn is lit.. I have done that run by the facts we got from billy bayonette. So if the urn is lit. AWESOME! if not.. well its back to the drawing board.

    Just thought I might share it with you guys winking

    Keep the search up!! Feel like its close now.....
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    Re: The great search

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:52 pm

    Tornesol wrote:Alright.

    So this is what I have been thinking about.

    In the create a new char page, when you choose starting gift, notice that there is a blank field? but it has the same symbol on the right side as the rest of the gifts? the gifts then, when included the blank field, to 9.
    The starting classes are 10.
    And the urns in the kiln are 9. (1 large)
    There are 9 covenants.
    And the maximum characters you can create are 10...

    So this is what im thinking.. (if you got anything to prove me otherwise, be my guest)
    If we go by the fact that perhaps the urns can be lit, I think everthing is connected.. Class, gift, covenant. So if you complete the game the "right way" you get a urn lit.
    Example: a pyromancer in the chaos covenant (+3) links the fire. (?)

    Perhaps that lit urn carrys over to a new character? Then you will have 10 classes (exeption for the deprived who has no obvious conection to anything imo, exept the 10th urn?) to connect to the right covenant and ending. And you will have 10 character slots to do that in..
    What do you guys think? quite odd right?

    Tomorrow I will come back to the kiln with my pyromancer on NG+ to see if a urn is lit.. I have done that run by the facts we got from billy bayonette. So if the urn is lit. AWESOME! if not.. well its back to the drawing board.

    Just thought I might share it with you guys winking

    Keep the search up!! Feel like its close now.....

    This is actually what sunbro is trying to do, except he chooses the pendant for all the classes. He has already completed 3 classes and covenants, and he has not seen any urn lit at the moment.


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    Re: The great search

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:59 pm

    pylorih wrote:I completed my run with a bandit and the chaos covenant today. Alas I did not see a brazier lit.

    I think we are looking for something that simply is not there, maybe whatever was going to be was cut out.

    Did you check the urn after acquiring the Lordvessel in NG+ or did you just check it before linking the fire?


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    Re: The great search

    Post by pylorih on Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:21 pm

    I can confirm that I placed the lordvessel on its place when I checked the urn.

    NG+ with chaos covenant rank 3 - had linked the fire.
    FIrst thing I did was went for Quelaag when I made it from the tutorial area. Rang the bell, then took the valley route to get to the church.
    Smackdominated the gargoyles and rang the bell.

    Lautrec killed the firekeeper so I turned and headed to Sen's.

    Made the golem kneel to me and then made it to Anor Londo.

    Got some assistance from another gent in taking down the dragonslayer and smough.

    After getting the lordvessel, immediately ported to the beginning and made my way to the kiln door.

    Placed lordvessel but no fire in the wall of braziers alas sad
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    Re: The great search

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:30 am

    pylorih wrote:I can confirm that I placed the lordvessel on its place when I checked the urn.

    NG+ with chaos covenant rank 3 - had linked the fire.
    FIrst thing I did was went for Quelaag when I made it from the tutorial area. Rang the bell, then took the valley route to get to the church.
    Smackdominated the gargoyles and rang the bell.

    Lautrec killed the firekeeper so I turned and headed to Sen's.

    Made the golem kneel to me and then made it to Anor Londo.

    Got some assistance from another gent in taking down the dragonslayer and smough.

    After getting the lordvessel, immediately ported to the beginning and made my way to the kiln door.

    Placed lordvessel but no fire in the wall of braziers alas sad

    Thank you for testing it. I guess the theory of the covenants has failed.


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    Re: The great search

    Post by Tornesol on Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:50 am

    lol. It sounded so much different in my head.. Oh well..
    Man, a pic from billy_bayonett would help so much..
    But I think i will call this one a fake untill I get some prof..


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    Re: The great search

    Post by Tornesol on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:47 am

    Yeah, I can comfirm it to now.. I got back to the lordvessel room with my pyro on ng+

    no brazier was lit.. Dammit


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    Re: The great search

    Post by Gol on Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:18 am

    If he did say the truth, don't forget he said he finished the game with the starting armor.
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    Post by Tornesol on Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:28 am

    I did that. The old ragged cloth stuff


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    Re: The great search

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:58 am

    Tornesol wrote:Yeah, I can comfirm it to now.. I got back to the lordvessel room with my pyro on ng+

    no brazier was lit.. Dammit

    Chaos covenant +3? He did start with th old witch ring, maybe you are correct about the gifts.


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    Post by Tornesol on Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:54 pm

    I had +3 chaos and old witch ring :/ And I linked the fire


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    Re: The great search

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:05 pm

    Ok thanks for the confirmation.


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    Re: The great search

    Post by Tornesol on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:49 pm

    Thought it might be fun with a comical relief in the midst of the search. winking


    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/dark-souls-soul-calibur/726348#new_comment

    I for one loved it! LOL


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    Re: The great search

    Post by pylorih on Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:00 am

    Has anyone tried to use their Dark sign after killing Gwyn?
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    Re: The great search

    Post by sunbro on Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:22 am

    WyrmHero wrote:
    pylorih wrote:I completed my run with a bandit and the chaos covenant today. Alas I did not see a brazier lit.

    I think we are looking for something that simply is not there, maybe whatever was going to be was cut out.

    Did you check the urn after acquiring the Lordvessel in NG+ or did you just check it before linking the fire?

    Yeah but he used the pyromancer and not the bandit, so maybe that's why it dont work if he is telling the truth


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    Re: The great search

    Post by sunbro on Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:25 am

    Also I'm still working on the hunter toon
    Now +2 but getting to +3 is a real pain in the @$$ cause of al the jumpers there
    I'm winning 1 in 5 fight or so


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    Re: The great search

    Post by Spurgun on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:47 am

    pylorih wrote:Has anyone tried to use their Dark sign after killing Gwyn?

    i tried that, only thing that happened was that i lost all my souls and 99 humanity. i reappeared at the place where you figth gwyn and there wasn't any bloodstain on the ground sad
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    Re: The great search

    Post by sunbro on Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:23 pm

    hellooo wrote:
    pylorih wrote:Has anyone tried to use their Dark sign after killing Gwyn?

    i tried that, only thing that happened was that i lost all my souls and 99 humanity. i reappeared at the place where you figth gwyn and there wasn't any bloodstain on the ground sad

    Yep you're right about that :evil:


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    Re: The great search

    Post by Tornesol on Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:47 pm

    Oh yeah!!!
    Totally forgot!

    when I did my Pyro run. I linked the fire. I noticed one thing...

    In Gwyns room there is some barred gates right? I always wondered if they could be opened..

    I watched the fire ending and I swear.. One of the gates was open!!!
    I will check into this more and come back to you guys with pictures.

    I hope, I hope, I hope....



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    Re: The great search

    Post by pylorih on Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:28 pm

    Maybe the big secret in ng+ is meeting Kaathe who tells you the other side of the coin....
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    Re: The great search

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:45 pm

    pylorih wrote:Maybe the big secret in ng+ is meeting Kaathe who tells you the other side of the coin....


    Yeah I think this is the secret the director said in the interview about NG+. The other thing is Gwyns robes and Sunlight Spear in exchange for his soul. I cant think of any other secret....


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    Re: The great search

    Post by DoughGuy on Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:17 am

    It was recently brought up (somewhere) that not all the monsters in the artbook appear in the game. I myself counted 8 that I have not seen or been able to match up with their description in the wiki (havent been through all the game yet). Does anyone know whether these were planned things that got cut or is their inclusion unknown?


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    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:21 am

    I'm sure they were cut out from the final version. I was upset with the artbook because they didnt include Priscilla. sad


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    Re: The great search

    Post by sunbro on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:28 pm

    Hey guy's the great search is on a pauze right now
    Because I'm in the UK now for a month for my work
    So I'll be reading up on the forums but no playing for me untill April

    Keep up the search


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    Post by Tornesol on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:47 pm

    I will continue some search on my own. Have done the pyro. Working on the darkwraith run now!


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