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    Post by tofucactaur Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:59 am

    wow....im on ps3, checked out the leaders....duels top guy in 50-100 bracket had over 200 kill streak....
    WTF? is he using cowards crystal to leave if he is going to loose...? is he just incredible...? i have been playing it a bit, and tbh i havent fought anyone good at all, in fact, i havent actually lost a match yet...i have only played about ...20...? i dont have a streak though unfortunately, my internet SUX and drops out often...resulting in streak reset.....but i cannot imagine getting over 200....! so....does cowards crystal reset your winning streak, or is that guy really awsm....?
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:01 am

    Either this guy is a Dark Souls god or he's working on some fishy ****.

    My guess would be the latter.
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    Post by The Letter X Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:29 am

    Number one only had 53 last time I checked on 360.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:36 am

    the cowards crystal resets streaks now... but considering on ps3 the top person in the chaos covanent has like 10000 humanity donated i bet its just some sort of hack or glitch.
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    Post by tofucactaur Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:50 am

    dang.....sorta sucks....i did think at the rate i was going (cept my goddam internet keeps cutting out) i coulda secured i nice spot on the leaderboards....but 200+ is crazy..... sad
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    Post by PervertQ Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:19 am

    I think a 50 win streak is pretty doable.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:54 am

    yeah on the lvl50 board a guy i've fought has a streak of 87, he's good enough to do it if i guess his tactic right.... (high speed boosted pyro for one kill and then run like hell until the match is over, he evades like a madman)
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    Post by DoughGuy Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:58 am

    Our very own Roan holds 5th spot with 75 so its possible. The person in second has 153 and Roan ended their streak so they weren't glitching or hacking.
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    Post by goober0331 Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:03 am

    I was around 5th yesterday on the XBL 51-100 with a 30 streak.

    Its not too hard, just beware the laggy bs fishers!
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    Post by >Brave< Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:45 am

    Good chance that person uses dark magic 99% of his fights. Just flat out over powered. I understand mages needed that boost against melee knights but magic that can do a sharp turn better than a razor on wheels was over doing it. Lets not forgot the chip/direct damage of dark bead either.
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    Post by iGBx Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:20 am

    I was joint 6th on the Level 50 leaderboard with a 25 streak. The guy in #1 beat me a few times the night before with that damned spear lol.
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    Post by goober0331 Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:46 pm

    iGBx wrote:I was joint 6th on the Level 50 leaderboard with a 25 streak. The guy in #1 beat me a few times the night before with that damned spear lol.

    The spears (specifically SKS and DSS) are very very good counter attacking weapons. I primarily used a SKS to get my 30 streak, but had to change weapons on a couple of fights when my opponent knew how to counter said spears.

    Spears can be difficult but not unstoppable.
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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:08 pm

    with this build.
    http://tinyurl.com/8efouf3

    any thing is possible.

    goober0331 wrote:
    Spears can be difficult but not unstoppable.

    if you know to fight with a spear it is unstoppable. follow these rules and you will never lose.

    1. Only attack when enemy is max range away, never when he is close.
    2. Never hit R1 more then once.
    3. Always Flip away after an R1.
    4. If enemy pulls out a bow just roll side to side till he gets bored.
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    Post by goober0331 Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:18 pm

    Believe me glutebrah, I know how to use spears. I get TONS of hatemail about it.

    And countering spears is easy, people are just stubborn and dont prepare their builds.

    When I come up against another spear user I:

    Switch to GS, if I feel like it
    Turtle with shield up and hit them with my spear as their coming in (only if their 2handing)
    Use a bow
    Or if their turtling, use pyro (GC and black flame) and their done

    My build has 300 more health, and 20 more poise than that DSS build, while still being at SL 100, defenses are all at 300, and I can switch to at least five other weapons (menu swap), along with my back up bow and pyro.

    Believe me SPEARS ARE NOT HARD, people just arent prepared.

    I can also swap out numerous rings (Wolf, Hornet, Hawk, DWGR etc) to whatever situation I am in. The DSS build is very dependent on the FoP and Wolf ring for any health and poise.


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    Post by bopjo1 Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:18 pm

    If the guy has a 200+ streak how come no body has ever heard of him before and no one has fought him? I smell a glitcher...
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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:21 pm

    goober0331 wrote:Believe me glutebrah, I know how to use spears. I get TONS of hatemail about it.

    And countering spears is easy, people are just stubborn and dont prepare their builds.

    When I come up against another spear user I:

    Switch to GS, if I feel like it
    Turtle with shield up and hit them with my spear as their coming in (only if their 2handing)
    Use a bow
    Or if their turtling, use pyro (GC and black flame) and their done

    My build has 300 more health, and 20 more poise than that DSS build, while still being at SL 100, defenses are all at 300, and I can switch to at least five other weapons (menu swap), along with my back up bow and pyro.

    Believe me SPEARS ARE NOT HARD, people just arent prepared.

    you didn't follow my rules then. if those strategies beat spear users. DSS has longest reach in game, as long as you only R1 once when enemy is max range and flip away after, you will never get hit by a GC or black flame or anything else with such short range.

    you talk about beating a spear user with a spear, that is different. a spear user should never be beat by a non spear user if they are smart.

    think about it.. if you are using the longest weapon in the game to the max reach and flipping away after you attack once, how will you ever get hit, you need to use ranged spells/miracles to defeat a spear user, or a spear.


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    Post by goober0331 Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:24 pm

    But then if any opponent is very stubborn and keeps doing those tactics you described, then even if I couldnt beat them, I would make sure I didnt loose.

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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:26 pm

    goober0331 wrote:But then if any opponent is very stubborn and keeps doing those tactics you described, then even if I couldnt beat them, I would make sure I didnt loose.


    thats what i mean if a Spear user wants to they can be out of reach from every weapon in the game and never get hit, and you can't parry a spear at max range.
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    Post by goober0331 Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:32 pm

    Yes I know that, which is why in the arena i get mostly draws against other good spear users, the ones that 2h and dodge/counter attack. But its only like that since after I switch my set up ( I actually menu swap to a demon slayer spear) then they just keep flipping around, trying to poke through my shield.

    Spears can create a stalemate in a match, which is fine, its just tactics cancelling each other out, and then whoever is "better" at PVP should win.


    Were both agreeing on the same thing, just expressing our different views on it.
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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:37 pm

    goober0331 wrote:Yes I know that, which is why in the arena i get mostly draws against other good spear users, the ones that 2h and dodge/counter attack. But its only like that since after I switch my set up ( I actually menu swap to a demon slayer spear) then they just keep flipping around, trying to poke through my shield.

    Spears can create a stalemate in a match, which is fine, its just tactics cancelling each other out, and then whoever is "better" at PVP should win.


    Were both agreeing on the same thing, just expressing our different views on it.

    all im saying is a spear should NEVER lose to anything that isn't a spear. and since everyone doesn't use a spear in arena, you should dominate everyone if you do.
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    Post by eduardolee Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:42 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:with this build.
    http://tinyurl.com/8efouf3

    any thing is possible.

    goober0331 wrote:
    Spears can be difficult but not unstoppable.

    if you know to fight with a spear it is unstoppable. follow these rules and you will never lose.

    1. Only attack when enemy is max range away, never when he is close.
    2. Never hit R1 more then once.
    3. Always Flip away after an R1.
    4. If enemy pulls out a bow just roll side to side till he gets bored.

    What about weapons that do bleed?they can put pressure on a spear user.i can see a katana user beating a spear...
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    Post by Ghadis_God Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:40 pm

    Roan has said he's fought everyone in the top 10 except for the #1 player, so it's likely that only he's glitching/hacking.
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    Post by Juutas Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:19 pm

    I bet I could do 100 streak at least with a spear haha! I'm not afraid to say that spears are weapons for cowards...everyone knows how ridicilously over powered they are.
    I'm 2nd of the xbox leaderboard with my 49 streak, but I'm pretty happy with it because I'm the highest on leaderboard who doesn't use healing miracle or any sort of magic.
    My streak ended in a total fiasco when I fought against spear user who beat me once and then ran away from me for the rest of the match...I even broke my weapon during the time I was trying to bring him down. I didn't pack any repair powder when I started my streak so my armor and weapons were all broken/nearly broken at the point my streak ended, so keep this in mind if you are going for a long streak.

    Here is the build I used for the streak if anyone is interested:
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=4604097532031671
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    Post by goober0331 Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:55 pm

    Spears certainly arent overpowered, you just have to counter it.

    Its not hard at all.

    And like I said, if you cant beat them, just dont loose.
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    Post by Glutebrah Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:40 pm

    eduardolee wrote:What about weapons that do bleed?they can put pressure on a spear user.i can see a katana user beating a spear...

    if you follow my simple steps to playing with a spear a katana user (not even a Washingpole) would get in reach to even hit you once)

    goober0331 wrote:Spears certainly arent overpowered, you just have to counter it.

    Its not hard at all.

    And like I said, if you cant beat them, just dont loose.



    you have yet to list a counter that isn't using a spear. and do not say bow.

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