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    Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:05 am

    i'm putting together a toxic build and i'm wondering if the poison and toxic mist pyromancies are subject to any kind of magic adjustment from an ascended pyro flame, dusk crown, either of the dragon rings, etc.
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Mr. Tart on Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:18 am

    I don't think so. As far as i know it works exactly the same no matter what you use.


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Knight Alundil on Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:05 pm

    Yeh i had a poison build and as much as I tried I couldn't increase the mist damages. Sorry sad


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:37 pm

    well, i guess i can save some souls and not worry about upgrading the pyro flame or getting 10 int. so i can buy the bellowing/lingering dragon rings from what's his name (unless there is another way get those rings?)

    this means i have more to put towards using the gravelord sword dance miracles…those scale right?

    i want to stay as low level as i can, so i'm looking for the most efficient way to use said pyromancies and miracles. so far i'm thinking gravelord cov. with 24 strength and 13 dexterity for the gravelord sword, 8/10 (thoroland talisman) or 16/8 (velka's talisman) in intelligence and faith, plus enough attunement slots for poison/toxic/acid mist pryomancies as well as a slot reserved for the gravelord greatsword dance (16 or 19 attunement).
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:00 pm

    ummm, i think the new dlc dark fog spell might scale, cause i rememeber poison mist inflicting 3 damage a tick, but dark fog inflicted 4, though this was a pve setting and not against another player, needs testing, the gravelord miracles scale with your covananet rank and whatever your using to boost your talisman (there is an int talisman that can make the gravelord miracles quite strong.)


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by ChaosMoogle on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:02 pm

    The Dark Fog sorcery scales with int - the higher your Int the faster it poisons and the longer the poison lasts, I believe. Don't think that will be much good to you with the build you posted above though silly


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:24 pm

    dark fog you say? scales with intelligence you say? hmm…i don't know anything about dark fog, i haven't made it into the DLC content yet, how is it different from poison mist (other than it's intelligence requirement)? is it worth the intelligence investment? if so, perhaps i could use velka's talisman instead of thoroland's talisman to take advantage of dark fog's intelligence requirement?

    so something like like 24/13 in strength and dex, 18/8 in intelligence and faith, and 16 or 19 in attunement.

    thanks for the awesome suggestions! something to think about before i finish up my level 1, no boss killing treasure hunt (i always clean out every area i can before killing any bosses at the start of all my games, except maybe capra, cuz **** him).
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:30 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2350862886485653

    something like this maybe?

    btw dark fog appears where ever your catalyst was pointing, no animation of something traveling from your catalyst to the spot where mist will appear


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by ChaosMoogle on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:33 pm

    happy

    Is it worth it? Hmmm. Hard to say. It's better for aiming as if your target is far away the Fog will form for away. You can do this with the Pyro versions as well with manual aiming, but that doesn't always work out. It's a less obvious cast as well, which might be useful if you're build is for PvP; the cast for the Pyro Mists is extremely obvious, but with Dark Fog it just looks like you are casting Dark Orb or something. I think it looks cooler as well!

    Don't know whether it's worth investing stats into Int to increase the Poison time though. I've only used it on an Abyss Mage with 45 Int.

    Edit: Damn you, Sparkly! silly


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:52 pm

    this is what i had in mind as my base build: http://tinyurl.com/965kvfn

    not bad for being under SL40 if you ask me. i plan on menu swapping the pryo flame for either the short bow (poison arrows) or the thorolund talisman as needed. of course i was also going to be using rotten resin on the bandit knife as well.

    but now that i know about dark fog, my plans might change. i'm still very much open to any suggestions as i haven't even started leveling up my toon yet.

    edit: that's a pretty nice build sparkly, thanks!
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Knight Alundil on Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:12 pm

    The dark fog sorcery is a total kick in the teeth to any poison mist pyro user. It really is just a better version. You could argue that of course it's better because it requires stat points to use but you know what I mean. sad


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:53 pm

    i know what you mean k-nig-it…that's how you pronounce it right?

    i think i will actually stick with pyro and skip putting any points into intelligence this time around. i don't want to start swapping between three catalysts and a bow. i could stick with sorcery and only one catalyst i suppose, but sorceries don't get good until you have a high intelligence…and since i want to stay as low level as possible for my first play-through (a silly limit for pvp i know, but gravelording seems to work better at low levels i find).

    it's really too bad that poison/toxic mist aren't affected by the dragon rings or dusk crown and the like…can you get extra casts by using that ring that halves your hit points at least? that combined with red tearstone could be fun, since most of the time it's OHKO at low level anyway.
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Knight Alundil on Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:14 pm

    Haha no man, knight is an english word pronounced the same as night. (N- ay- t)

    Artorias was a knight, and so was like... oscar at the start of the game.


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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Bcc17 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:18 pm

    Nybbles wrote:i know what you mean k-nig-it…that's how you pronounce it right?

    Wat?



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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:16 pm

    seriously? lol

    does no one watch Monty Python anymore?

    i feel so old and out of touch now…damn youngsters "Get Off My Lawn!"
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Knight Alundil on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:22 pm

    I used to watch monty python alot more than I do now and I can't actually remember the sketch you're referring too silly

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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Bcc17 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:22 pm

    Nybbles wrote:seriously? lol

    does no one watch Monty Python anymore?

    i feel so old and out of touch now…damn youngsters "Get Off My Lawn!"

    And the Holy Grail?

    I don't remember that part then. Castle Anthrax is beautiful this time of year though.

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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by Nybbles on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:34 pm

    since we are now thoroughly derailed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY
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    Re: Boosting Poison/Toxic Mist?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:38 pm

    ahh yes the monty python french, i need to make a build based on them... maybe goughs gauntlets for the limp wrist thejng and... i guess i'll have to use knight armor and... no idea for the helm.... i'll also have to throw dungpies...


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