Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

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    Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by Shindori on Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:10 pm

    I'm keeping Toxic Mist. But... 6 extra slots. whatshall they be? Black Flame and such are kinda weak.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:46 pm

    If it's an Artorias build, why not instead use Dark Fog?

    Anyway if you insist in Pyromancies:

    Fire Tempest, strong, it's AoE, and only requires 1 slot
    Great Combustion, it's good if you want to do the BS+GC combo, and against shield turtles.
    Great Chaos Fireball, does good damage but it's slow, you need the chaos version because it compensates with leaving lava where you hit.
    Chaos Fire Whip, same reason as above but it's a whip, it's great for tiny spaces.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by Shindori on Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:52 pm

    Sounds good to me. I heard 4 Kings are weak against fire. Will those do justice? I have a +5 Ascended flame.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by Shindori on Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:20 pm

    Also, Black Flame is better against turtles. It has a stronger knockback and drains more stamina from the defense.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:44 pm

    Shindori wrote:Also, Black Flame is better against turtles. It has a stronger knockback and drains more stamina from the defense.

    I'm not sure, but I believe Great Combustion does more damage. The stamina drain it's not the point of combustion-like attacks, it's the damage that goes through the shield. Breaking an opponents' guard it's not better than doing more damage through his shield. At least that's my opinion.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by Shindori on Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:59 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:
    Shindori wrote:Also, Black Flame is better against turtles. It has a stronger knockback and drains more stamina from the defense.

    I'm not sure, but I believe Great Combustion does more damage. The stamina drain it's not the point of combustion-like attacks, it's the damage that goes through the shield. Breaking an opponents' guard it's not better than doing more damage through his shield. At least that's my opinion.
    Hmm.. thats very true... Even though they say its pure physical, black flames does both physical and fire.. im gonna teste them out on guarding opponents and get back to you, gimme a min.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by Shindori on Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:07 pm

    They do roughly the same to the spear zombies at undead burg. Black flames to 84, GC does 91.But the GC did nothing to their blocking. however it took a single black flame to knock back the shield, which would open an opponent to another black flame attack. what do you think, sir?


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:14 pm

    Shindori wrote:They do roughly the same to the spear zombies at undead burg. Black flames to 84, GC does 91.But the GC did nothing to their blocking. however it took a single black flame to knock back the shield, which would open an opponent to another black flame attack. what do you think, sir?

    I bet you won't break anyone's guard using a decent shield with 1 Black Flame, and they can dodge the second, that means that it's better to do the most damage possible with the first cast. Anyway try it against players not mobs.


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    Re: Best pyromancies for my Artorias build?

    Post by Shindori on Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:26 pm

    Hmm.. I just might.


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