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    Post by goober0331 Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:47 pm

    I was reviewing the top 10 players on the XBL SL51-100 Duel ladder, and 7/10 of them are outside the US. Then on the All Levels section, it is 6/10

    Now you can see how lag will be a problem, most predominately being the lagstab, which from my experience playing against some of those elites, is quite a problem, and they know it, so they fish/roll bs all day.

    It's really frustrating knowing that, while the patch fixed a multitude of things for PVP, lag still rules.
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    Post by bart95 Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:39 pm

    It's because Dark Souls uses a shoddy Peer to peer network system between clients rather than it all being on set servers. The host most of the time will have the best connection whereas your machine will be relaying information several seconds old.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:25 pm

    Yup, it sucks, but the game still rules. I do hope they use dedicated servers for the next game, although that wont mean it will be perfect or anything.
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    Post by lorenzo110 Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:36 pm

    Its been fun at the new areana but...and this is a big but lol...I have run across quite a few players who are pretty underhanded there. One guy used stone sword twop the moment he spawned and got me stuck then used persuerers to kill me. When I respawned back down he proceeded to run away the rest of the match until time ran out. I think this is going to be more a common tactic. Then I ran into another guy who I was killing. He was down to his last quarter HP and I still have 75 percent of mine. He suddenly turned and ran away to fully heal. I thought he was going to grass up so I didnt think much of it. Until he started employing TWOP as well. I thought there would be alot more honest playing but its just wishful on my part. Oh and there was this one guy who just ran throughout the entire area not even wanting to fight at all. Why play if that is all your going to do? But all in all the new areana is amazing. Just wish the time was upped by a few more minutes. Thats not asking for much considering how long it takes to get in some of these matches. Just my opin.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:44 pm

    Think about it though, if the arena is made to be competitive then it could technically be a good thing. If people are insanely competitive, then they have no reason to pvp anywhere but the arena(and will lose their streak when they leave). So outside areas might end up being a lot more fun for pvp.
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    Post by DamageCK Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:20 pm

    I'm thinking the reason that most of the players in the top ten are from outside the US is probably because there are more people outside the US who play DkS than people in the US who play. It's not like 50% of all DkS players are in the US, so why would you expect the arena leaderboards to show that? People all over the world play this game, so I'm not surprised that a single country out of the entire world isn't the majority on the boards.
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    Post by goober0331 Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:05 pm

    DamageCK wrote:I'm thinking the reason that most of the players in the top ten are from outside the US is probably because there are more people outside the US who play DkS than people in the US who play. It's not like 50% of all DkS players are in the US, so why would you expect the arena leaderboards to show that? People all over the world play this game, so I'm not surprised that a single country out of the entire world isn't the majority on the boards.

    I didnt imply that the leaderboards should be full of US players, simply saying that the worldwide P2P system is flawed as it produces more lag, and when you have players from all over the world participating, there is gonna be a lot of lag.

    I'll give you an example.

    SL 65 hosting in the forest, letting my summon fight any invaders and depending on the outcome, I will either fight or not.

    So a DW invades, somehow is fast rolling with a combo of thorns/havels/dark armor, with a grass crest and CMW buff on their 2h mura at SL 65 or near it.

    So anyway my summon goes to fight him and gets ohko lagstabbed by the DW hornet stab. I know it was a laggy bs cause they were facing each other and the DW teleported behind him, ohko.

    Then he runs at me, I know hes goin for laggy bs so I;m not gonna try and counter bs, and as he is running towards me I'm running backwards, and he somehow ohko bs me.

    I check his profile after and hes from Austria, far far away from me in US (Kansas).

    Soooo yeah its lag. Lag rules.
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    Post by DamageCK Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:08 pm

    I mean, I get what you're saying about lag affecting connections between players where distance causes latency, but you're probably lagging on their screen too. Speed of light isn't any faster in Austria, my man. You're both suffering from latency caused by the distance.
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    Post by goober0331 Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:14 pm

    Yes I know what is happening, your not understanding what I am saying. I played a lot of the Gears of War series so I know alllll about the P2P system. At least in GoW it wasnt a global system.

    The P2P worldwide system is flawed, and players are VERY aware of this.

    You think that player in Austria doesnt know about the lag? Thats why he was going so hard with the Hornet/CWM ohko bs.
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    Post by RANT Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:20 pm

    It is about lag but not really, a lot of player which are very competitive will use the worse tactics for a win, which is why they go for that very lame ohko.
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    Post by Juutas Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:19 pm

    Just managed to get myself 2nd on plague of legends (lvl 99 on lvl 51-100 bracket) and my epic streak had such a lame ending big grin
    I have never really got the benefits of lag, quite the opposite actually...gotta love em invisible spells casted to your face! <3
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    Post by DamageCK Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:16 pm

    Juutas wrote:Just managed to get myself 2nd on plague of legends (lvl 99 on lvl 51-100 bracket) and my epic streak had such a lame ending big grin
    I have never really got the benefits of lag, quite the opposite actually...gotta love em invisible spells casted to your face! <3

    Invade some dude--"Okay, everything looks cool. No funny business. Do a quick camera 360, no phantoms. Cool, cool. All right, he's bowing. Here ya go, buddy, here's a bow for ya. Okay, fight's startin' up. Footsies, footsies. Gonna go in for an attac---WHAT THE F*CK?! CHSM? Aaaack..."
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    Post by RANT Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:28 pm

    Lol that **** keeps happening to me when my opponent is really laggy, I just laugh it off nd hope it was lag and he was glitching, its been happening a lo tks me in the forest but I'm sure it's lag since I get constant invasions there.
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    Post by DamageCK Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:11 am

    What I'm pretty sure they're doing is casting it twice, and after the second cast it becomes invisible to the vader sometimes. I was vading in the Kiln one night and as I'm spawning in a see the host already has hcsm cast but he casts it again as soon as he sees I'm comin' and afer the cast animation completed the orbs were invisible. Fight starts and immediately I take the full invisible five-orb blast. So, lng story short, think that's what's going on.

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