Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

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    Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by bart95 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:25 pm

    See, whenever I get invaded, 9/10 times, it's some bloody git with armour and weapons from far, FAR later in the game than reasonably obtainable. (Such as a Dark set/sword when I'm SL15) Usually they have themselves fully buffed and enchanted.

    As a result, whenever I get invaded, I have to toss all "Nice" rules out of the window because to be frank, I don't want to be one-shotted just because the invader might have deliberately stayed a low level or something while they farmed for stupidly powerful gear.

    Now if it was a red summon sign, then yeah I go for duel rules because I actually knowingly went for PvP and am well aware of the opponents gear. Random invasions, not so much. Due to my new habit I've lightning speared folks while they emote a bow. I feel bad for it but to be quite frank I don't want to take the chance of me possibly bowing in return only to get +10 lightning backstabbed while I'm in the animation.

    So...I feel quite bad for this, am I in the wrong to only follow "The rules" when using a red sign? Or is it justified to go all out at random invaders just to save my humanity, souls and usually my progress in the already hard region.
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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by Rudmed on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:33 pm

    I tend to pause and wait for a moment. If they don't bow then I treat it like a regular old invasion (though I sometimes fall into dueling habits).


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by bart95 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:36 pm

    Rudmed wrote:I tend to pause and wait for a moment. If they don't bow then I treat it like a regular old invasion (though I sometimes fall into dueling habits).

    Mm, just I bowed once in return and got backstabbed as soon as I started the animation. I dunno, maybe I just keep meeting the worst examples.
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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:38 pm

    If you're being invaded while questing and you don't want to PvP, do whatever you want/can to stay alive. Invasions aren't duels, so duelling "standards" don't apply. In reality, you're not bound by any rules other than those that are self-imposed.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by RANT on Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:03 pm

    What damage said, even if they bow I will chainstab your *** tor invading and interrupting my run, a lot of people bow making u think they're cool only to either bs u right away or do nothing but bs once they're about to lose.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:38 pm

    Agreed. If I'm questing, anything goes. I'm not there to humor the BPs. They are in my way, and I'll do anything to get them out of the way.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by Espada Muerta on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:20 pm

    Those rules are only for the Arena now! In the wild anything goes.

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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:37 am

    Whenever I invade using an eye orb, most people fight nice. A few times they gank, but only if they are halfway to the boss, or just summoned their questing group.

    Whenever I use the red soapstone to invade, I get ganked almost all the time.

    My point: If you want an honorable dual outside the arena, then use an eye orb, not a red soapatone.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by hageshisa on Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:42 am

    Everyone have got backstabbed while bowing. But hitting invaders when they try to be nice is not good sportsmanship. Whatever you say, it wont be good sportsmanship. I'm just sayin


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:18 am

    Well, why is good sportsmanship necessary in an invasion? People who get invaded while questing shouldn't pull any punches because it could end up getting them killed. I don't start palling around with invaders when I'm questing because the dude is ultimately trying to keep me from progressing in the game by killing me. It's like offering someone a drink while they try to burn your house down. Courtesy doesn't really fit in a survival situation.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:26 am

    It depends. If your there WAITING for PvP, then try and play nice, but if your questing do what you want


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by hageshisa on Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:35 am

    I didnt say you shouldn't attack an invader at all cost if you are questing, just that IF he wants a duel its not good sportsmanship to kill him while he bows. That kind of behavior just encourage ppl to do that to others


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:40 pm

    FattyOfDoom wrote:It depends. If your there WAITING for PvP, then try and play nice, but if your questing do what you want

    I agree, but if your opponent heals himself or refuses to bow, then let him have it.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:50 pm

    I disagree. If I'm questing, I'm not looking for a duel. I assume invaders feel the same way. There are plenty of spots to duel, if people want sportsmanship, they can go there.


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    Re: Are my rules regarding invasions overly tight or griefing?

    Post by Kolhell on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:07 pm

    If I want a clean fight, I'll go play SFxTekken :P

    I invade because I enjoy taking on people outnumbered and playing cat and mouse throughout the level. Most often I lose, because I suck, but I still have a blast dropping a Sword Dance from around a corner. Don't be a douchebag and chain-BS or WoG spam, but at the same time applying this "dueling etiquette" to invasions is poncy and missing the damn point.

    Bowing to an invader is a polite way to suggest turning the invasion into an honorable duel, but if you get BS'd then that was your fault for taking that risk. My advice, if you want to turn the invasion into a duel, is to pause when you spot the invader and let him make the first move. If he bows, bow back. If he starts to approach you or makes some other aggressive action, don't bow. If you both stand there staring at each other, then create a little space and perform a non-hostile action that leaves you less open than a bow would (drop a prism stone?) Otherwise you might as well be the British at the outset of the American Revolution.

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