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    Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:33 am

    What do you guys think of the Obsidian GS for PvP? It doesn't scale yet has 480 damage. It only requires 20/16 in stats and can be buffed. This seems great for SL 100 users as they can put stats elsewhere (such as 30 faith)

    How's the moveset? How's the actual damage?


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by RANT on Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:57 am

    damage is actually pretty good, its short though. ive been running into it a lot in the forest, a lot of gankers have it and the abyss sword which i think its pretty good since it has some crazy phantom reach its freaking annoying, i find myself with my shield up whenever i see that thing.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:24 am

    I can imagine the lower SLs using it though.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Glutebrah on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:07 am

    Still a GS and still easiest weapon in game to parry. But it's the new lightening claymore for vit builds.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by DarkW17 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:15 am

    Ya I have ran into a bunch of guys buffing slb onto it and and spamming R1(slowly hehehehehe)....I just parry them out!

    As for thr weapons its allright the AEO has good reach...its kinda like a short MSGS I guess...great dmg for the stats required tho


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by RANT on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:19 am

    Have you guys noticed his weak elemental are now? I mean I though ten percent would be like nothing but they do feel kinda weak, maybe it's just me. A lu lightning uchi was doing about 120 damage to me.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Glutebrah on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:23 am

    you have to think its 10% on the AR not the damage they did so if you were getting hit for 200 damage it doesn't mean you will just take 180 damage now.

    its more of a weapon that does 500 damage got nerfed to 450.. that's like comparing a GLGS to a Chaos blade, huge damage difference,


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by DarkW17 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:53 am

    I have noticed they are hitting me like little toys swords Rant hehehehe!

    I think a few will still be viable I made a Mura elemental build and with its ungodly stunlock I feel its a viable build still!

    On my dex build I mix up fast/mid rolling and when I mid roll leo tank I run full goughs that set is OP 340 ish fire resist and 376 physical...come at me bro!!!


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by RANT on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:13 pm

    I gotta get that armor but I'm tthinkin no-one will wanna just give it for free. Goughs and artys armour I see a lot the forest.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by DarkW17 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:30 pm

    Rant I am going to bring my str build to the arena this weekend....I will only be fast rolling with him and won't need goughs on that toon ill set ya up bro and atorias also!

    I can't say enough about goughs tho 53 poise as a set come on its to good to be true lol!!


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by RANT on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:09 pm

    That'd be awesome dude thanks.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by DarkW17 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:28 pm

    No prob bro my new fast roll look is porclean mask/chester jacket/kirks gaunts/hollow waiste its pretty swag lol!!


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Glutebrah on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:36 pm

    Rant what armor you want just the Arty or Goughs?

    i have no intention to use either of them, ill get them for you if you need, imo all of the new armor is awful and over used. making it more awful


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:43 pm

    my fave new piece of armor are the bloated heads (both types) i've got an extra if someone without the dlc wants it.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Kolhell on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:19 pm

    Not to derail, but what Glutebrah said about elemental weapons is spot-on. Damage reduction in this game is more subtractive than percentage-based, so a 10% reduction to AR is coming through as 30-50% off applied damage (not sure about PvP, but this is my own experience with a lightning weapon I had for PvE play).

    If there is a new sword that does high phys damage with zero scaling (I haven't played the DLC yet) then that could be a lifesaver for the old elemental builds. I'm quite interested in picking one up now to give it a few swings.
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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:23 pm

    Catarina set is better then goughs, it gives 55poise and weighs quite a bit less. I'm surprised how few people rock full catarina, it looks really cool when worn as a full set.
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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Glutebrah on Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:27 pm

    the lightening Resistance is pretty aweful


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:37 pm

    Eh, not a huge difference from goughs. It has slightly better magic defense. Plus if people are going to use elemental i'm guessing they will use chaos.
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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by RANT on Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:49 pm

    Kolhell wrote:Not to derail, but what Glutebrah said about elemental weapons is spot-on. Damage reduction in this game is more subtractive than percentage-based, so a 10% reduction to AR is coming through as 30-50% off applied damage (not sure about PvP, but this is my own experience with a lightning weapon I had for PvE play).

    If there is a new sword that does high phys damage with zero scaling (I haven't played the DLC yet) then that could be a lifesaver for the old elemental builds. I'm quite interested in picking one up now to give it a few swings.

    I'm actually quite happy that elemental builds are weaker now and hopefully they will die off, its really annoying fighting guys with 2400 vit. Also I do like catarina set but I kinda hated it for the longest time since when dks came out it was one of the most used armors. @glute and glatts I do want them for my server build and my str build, I'll catch u guys in the chats on Sunday. Glatts Where the hell have you been anyway?


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by BrotherBob on Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:48 pm

    Just a question about the Obsidian Greatsword's Special attack. What would happen if you buffed it (my int build can add 410 Magic Damage with CMW) and used that Special attack? Would the buff increase the damage output for that attack?


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by DarkW17 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:06 am

    RantFromRant wrote:
    Kolhell wrote:Not to derail, but what Glutebrah said about elemental weapons is spot-on. Damage reduction in this game is more subtractive than percentage-based, so a 10% reduction to AR is coming through as 30-50% off applied damage (not sure about PvP, but this is my own experience with a lightning weapon I had for PvE play).

    If there is a new sword that does high phys damage with zero scaling (I haven't played the DLC yet) then that could be a lifesaver for the old elemental builds. I'm quite interested in picking one up now to give it a few swings.

    I'm actually quite happy that elemental builds are weaker now and hopefully they will die off, its really annoying fighting guys with 2400 vit. Also I do like catarina set but I kinda hated it for the longest time since when dks came out it was one of the most used armors. @glute and glatts I do want them for my server build and my str build, I'll catch u guys in the chats on Sunday. Glatts Where the hell have you been anyway?

    Lol Rant I made a new psn Glatts_17 that I worked for awhile and that I use more than the other now....I don't have any chats on that psn tho....you should add me ill be on this weekend we need to have some duels bro!!!


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by CaligoIllioneus on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:12 am

    BrotherBob wrote:Just a question about the Obsidian Greatsword's Special attack. What would happen if you buffed it (my int build can add 410 Magic Damage with CMW) and used that Special attack? Would the buff increase the damage output for that attack?

    Yes, I tested it with Sunlight Blade and it seems to increase its damage.
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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:26 am

    DarkW17 wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:
    Kolhell wrote:Not to derail, but what Glutebrah said about elemental weapons is spot-on. Damage reduction in this game is more subtractive than percentage-based, so a 10% reduction to AR is coming through as 30-50% off applied damage (not sure about PvP, but this is my own experience with a lightning weapon I had for PvE play).

    If there is a new sword that does high phys damage with zero scaling (I haven't played the DLC yet) then that could be a lifesaver for the old elemental builds. I'm quite interested in picking one up now to give it a few swings.

    I'm actually quite happy that elemental builds are weaker now and hopefully they will die off, its really annoying fighting guys with 2400 vit. Also I do like catarina set but I kinda hated it for the longest time since when dks came out it was one of the most used armors. @glute and glatts I do want them for my server build and my str build, I'll catch u guys in the chats on Sunday. Glatts Where the hell have you been anyway?

    Lol Rant I made a new psn Glatts_17 that I worked for awhile and that I use more than the other now....I don't have any chats on that psn tho....you should add me ill be on this weekend we need to have some duels bro!!!
    You could always invite yourself to the chats with your main account.


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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by BrotherBob on Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:35 pm

    CaligoIllioneus wrote:
    BrotherBob wrote:Just a question about the Obsidian Greatsword's Special attack. What would happen if you buffed it (my int build can add 410 Magic Damage with CMW) and used that Special attack? Would the buff increase the damage output for that attack?

    Yes, I tested it with Sunlight Blade and it seems to increase its damage.
    What was the damage increase like and how much did the buff add to the weapon's AR?

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    Re: Obsidian Greatsword thoughts

    Post by Kolhell on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:17 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
    Kolhell wrote:If there is a new sword that does high phys damage with zero scaling (I haven't played the DLC yet) then that could be a lifesaver for the old elemental builds. I'm quite interested in picking one up now to give it a few swings.

    I'm actually quite happy that elemental builds are weaker now and hopefully they will die off, its really annoying fighting guys with 2400 vit.
    Fair enough, but just because it was slightly overpowered (why bother building stats when an enchant does the job equally well?) and YOU, personally, don't like it is insufficient cause to remove an otherwise legitimate tactic from the game entirely. It simply needed to be brought into line.

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