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    What do you think of this build?

    Post by xMalevolence on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:33 pm

    My first playthrough i ended up making my toon mainly a strength build, which sucked because I loved the attack animations of katana's. Sooooo I made a new toon and recently got it to 120, what do you guys think of the setup? Any improvements I can make armor/weapon wise?

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    Righthand Weapon 1: +15 laito
    Rh Weapon 2: Dragon Slayer Spear +5
    Lh Weapon 1: Grass Crest Shield +5
    Lh Weapon 2: Pyromancy Glove +3 ( the acended one )

    Armor: Full Ornstien's ( except for helm )
    Rings: Wolf ring, Dwgr

    Stats:
    50 Vit
    19 Att
    40 End
    24 Str
    40 Dex
    12 Res
    10 Int
    8 Fth


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by eneq on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:37 pm

    I would take the Vit down to 45 and up End if you are close to the weight cap and if not then I would put it into Dex. 19 Att seems a bit high as well, you could shuffle it more towards int or maybe to go 10 in faith for lower level miracles (gravelord for instance or others).
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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by Rynn on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    How much damage per swing does it do? You might need to invest in the use of pine resins to increase DPS, so that it does even more damage in PvP... otherwise DPS might be lower then a +5 lightning version of the same weapon.
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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by Carphil on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:42 pm

    I think you need more faith to use the dragon slayer spear


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by eneq on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:43 pm

    Nah he can use it, but since it scales with B on Faith he will lose out on some DPS.

    Edit: But you probably knew that and meant "Use it effectively"
    Edit2: In a Str/Dex build the Pike would probably be a better choice
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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by Whknight on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:46 pm

    Actually wiki says just STR and DEX, but faith plays a good amount in it's damage.You should also try out silver knight or demons spear and see which of the three does better for you.

    You really need a special build I feel to make dragonslayer worth it.


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by xMalevolence on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:04 pm

    The high att is really more for PvE, I've never liked using miracles/sorceries in PvP but I will use Great combustion if I need to.

    I do use resins in PvP, mainly rotten resin.

    Dragonslayer spear scales with strength,dex, and faith. B for dex and faith and C for strength. And really a lot of the reasons why I chose certain things ( spear and armor ) was because I love the look of it, if it does decent damage, I can deal with it.

    And I can't really take any away from end, since I don't use havel's ring my equip load is only 80, with all this on it adds up to 40/80. That's also why I don't wear a helm.


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:05 pm

    use a murakumo, you'll need two hands or 4 more str but it's awesome or you could use the server one handed at +15 its got b dex scaling good range and the life stealing effect.


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:08 pm

    Why the 19 att? That is attunement slots. What pyros will you be using?

    50 vitality and 40 dex are great. Going above that and you will hit staggering diminishing returns. Add to vitality if you have extra stats

    40 endurance is where the stamina cap is. But, with those weapons and the DWGR, you'll need an endurance of 48 to fast roll.

    The Demon's Spear is much better than the Dragon Slayer's Spear. It will outdamage it at these stats, and has a longer reach. Even at 14 Str (base for the Iaito), it will outdamage the spear. IMO, those extra 10 stats can be put elsewhere. On top of that, it is lighter, allowing you to save 8 endurance points and still fast roll. That is 18 extra stat points to use for a more powerful weapon.





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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by eneq on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:15 pm

    xMalevolence wrote:The high att is really more for PvE, I've never liked using miracles/sorceries in PvP but I will use Great combustion if I need to.

    I do use resins in PvP, mainly rotten resin.

    Dragonslayer spear scales with strength,dex, and faith. B for dex and faith and C for strength. And really a lot of the reasons why I chose certain things ( spear and armor ) was because I love the look of it, if it does decent damage, I can deal with it.

    And I can't really take any away from end, since I don't use havel's ring my equip load is only 80, with all this on it adds up to 40/80. That's also why I don't wear a helm.

    Didnt mean to take away from End but instead Up it if you were close to the weight cap.
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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by xMalevolence on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:23 pm

    the 19 att is mainly like I said, for PvE, but the only pyromancies I use in PvP are Great Combustion and occasionally Fire Tempest. The other slots are Great Fireball and Great Chaos Fireball.

    I've used muramuko before and I really don't like the attack animations for it.

    As for fast rolling with the dwgr, 40 endurance is enough for all of it, like I said previously, my equip load is 40.00/80.00.

    It might take me some time to get the demon's spear since I just went into ng+ with this toon and forgot about it, but if anyone on xbox wants to trade me one that would be awesome.


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:51 pm

    Hmm, I recalculated it at
    Pyro: 0
    Iaito: 5
    DSS: 10
    GCS: 3
    Armor: 23
    Which comes to 41 (I was wrong about the 44, sorry). What am I missing?


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by xMalevolence on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:57 pm

    lol I was wearing gauntlets of the channelers which is 1 less than ornstien's gauntlets. No idea why I was, but it works out for the equip load so I might as well keep wearing them.


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    Re: What do you think of this build?

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:17 pm

    Ah, that makes sense.


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