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    Most damaging thrust weapon? (In Phys damage, both DLC included)

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    Post by ChizFreak Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:08 pm

    Just to know, I'm thinking of doing a turtle build, and I wanted to use the best thrusting weapon along with Leo Ring (besides Havel Shield).
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    Post by StockpileThomas Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:12 pm

    The Lucerne, perhaps? At 40 str and 40 dex it does 521 AR. Can't turtle with it though.
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    Post by ChizFreak Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:14 pm

    StockpileThomas wrote:The Lucerne, perhaps? At 40 str and 40 dex it does 521 AR. Can't turtle with it though.

    Yeah I was thinking of that, but I don't like very much halberds. It's one of the options though. It doesn't matter if I can turtle with it, but it would help.
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    Post by BoilerFan8472 Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:50 pm

    Dragon Slayer Spear is pretty good to turtle with. Gives you basic thrust and spear qualities and a special ranged attack.
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    Post by ChizFreak Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:52 pm

    BoilerFan8472 wrote:Dragon Slayer Spear is pretty good to turtle with. Gives you basic thrust and spear qualities and a special ranged attack.

    Phys damage only. Leo Ring doesn't boost non-phys damage.
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    Post by Seignar Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:11 pm

    Maxed DSS does 336 Physical Damage
    Maxed SKS does 377 Physical Damage
    Maxed Pike does 399 (Rounded to 400) Physical Damage
    Maxed Estoc does 348 Physical Damage

    Take your pick
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:25 pm

    Dont forget the BSS, Ricards or the barbed straight sword.
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    Post by Seignar Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:43 pm

    You can't turtle with those sad
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    Post by ChizFreak Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:59 pm

    DoughGuy wrote:Dont forget the BSS, Ricards or the barbed straight sword.

    Barbed SS does thrust damage? *mind blown*
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    Post by The Letter X Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:07 pm

    If you want straight up damage I'd go with the Estoc. Spears will give you more range but if I'm not mistaken the Estoc still has a higher damage output even with its lower AR.
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    Post by RANT Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:20 pm

    Halberd.
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    Post by Joichiro Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:36 pm

    Greatsword? maybe?
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    Post by ChizFreak Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:50 pm

    I don't like halberds, I will give the Greatsword a try, thanks.
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    Post by Alara78 Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:28 am

    Yeah, Estoc is probably your best bet
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    Post by Ghadis_God Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:20 am

    Using the Greatsword's 2hr2 is technically the most damaging thrust attack in the game but it's hard to pull off. The Halberd'd the best in my opinion.
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    Post by sunbro Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:10 am

    ChizFreak wrote:
    DoughGuy wrote:Dont forget the BSS, Ricards or the barbed straight sword.

    Barbed SS does thrust damage? *mind blown*

    Balder Swag Sword lol just love the two handed R2
    not for turtles but a good backup weapon
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    Post by Dante_000 Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:14 am

    Why is it that the BSS is seen as one of the more powerful weapons? I've been using it and thus far found it to be a bit lack luster, am I missing something?
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    Post by Ghadis_God Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:29 am

    It seems to swing faster than the other SS, the poke also has abnormally high damage and you can do it more than once in a row.
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    Post by Seignar Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:58 pm

    I didn't understand the BSS at first either. The thing that makes it so great is the R2. It deals a TON of damage, can be repeated with a second press and it has some AWESOME range. With the Leo Ring, it makes a lethal weapon.
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    Post by befowler Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:40 pm

    I love the BSS, but have been making friends with the greatsword lately. The 2hd R2 is indeed brutally powerful and does get the leo bonus. It's actually not as hard to land as I thought, given its crazy range, fairly wide hitbox, and the ease with which it can be used without lockon (in fact the whole moveset tends to be better without lockon). But the timing of getting the counter bonus to trigger the ring is much trickier with the longer windup; you almost have to do prediction stabs to make sure you get the R2 thrust off while they are in mid swing, so high poise is needed since they may well hit you in the mean time. The BSS is faster and you can counterstab with the leo on much more safely.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:20 pm

    the bss reminds me of the penetrating sword from demons souls... it got a larger than usual boost to its r2 thrust move and had really long range for a straight sword... now i have to make a penetrator build....
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:27 pm

    Seignar wrote:Maxed Pike does 399 (Rounded to 400) Physical Damage

    Take your pick

    The one I left in Seignar's quote, is the one I use. It has a long range and you can do a dash/charging attack with it. But the strong attack is very slow, compared to the regular attack.

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