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    (Spoilers) GOOD/BAD News. You decide. (Patch)

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:28 pm

    So. This can be Old News for some people but for Me it was new.
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    (And i don't know if someone has already posted this. Pardon me if so)
    In the Patch, they're gonna make it so the ''Elite Knight Set'' is gonna have the same amount of Poise as the ''Knight Set''. Im mostly okey with it since the only thing that made ''Elite Armor Set'' bad comparing to the ''Knight Set'' was the wieght.

    The CLAYMORE (God i Love/Hate that weapon) is going to GET ''Patched''.
    It won't be able to Stun-lock, they've reduced the time to Swing it so it will be (alot) slower to swing WHICH makes it Unable to Stun-Lock.

    Im happy about that since i tear the rest of my Hair of everytime i get Stun-Locked to death but I know some people find Stun-Locking balancing DUE to Great Swords being slow.

    THAT'S ALL (I know.)


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    Post by Lord of Ash on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:37 pm

    Thats **** every time a patch comes out they patch more than they need to I was fin with the bb and Im fine with the knight but the claymore Some people thats thier fighting style stagger to death I dont I use longsword and spears but they need to stop tweeking the game so much fix it before you release it so that ppeople dont become accustomed to playing a certain way then have to adapt because people either complained or some glitch that freezes your game Im rambling my bad


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    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:45 pm

    Wanna know why they Patch so much?
    NEW.PLAYERS.
    When people that playes games Like:
    Cod,BF3,Mass Effect,Crysis and Assasins Creed Comes to a Game like Dark Souls. They get their *** handed to them.
    They can't take that the game is (Cap rage incoming) SUPPOSED TO BE HARD. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DIE. DYING MEANS LEARNING.(Cap rage Over)
    They complain about such minor things, WHAT'S NEXT? You can summon 6 people instead of 2?

    It's annyoing. I DO Bit*h about Stun-Locking but i know it's there for Balance. ''New Players'' screams in rage everytime a Hollow attacks them from behind since they weren't paying attention.

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    Post by StockpileThomas on Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:52 pm

    With the Greatswords can you do a R1 + R2 combo successfully?

    From what I've read, there isn't a single thing in this patch that bugs me. I guess we'll see how much I like it next week.
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    Post by The_Dark_Dreamer on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:01 pm

    Wow making the claymore swing speed slower...
    They just ruined one of my favorite weapons.
    Stun locking sucks and is annoying as crap but making this sword slower is like making the dagger swing as fast as a sword.


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:10 pm

    Yes stockpile, it will now just take more then just R1R1R1 to stunlock someone. I use greatswords a lot, and feel this was a fair patch. Also the Elite knight set is actually just getting corrected, what it is getting changed to a lot of other people arleady had. Certain regions had a lower poise version(US) and others had the higher poise version(which is what everyone will have now). I think every patch was needed.
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    Post by StockpileThomas on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:20 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:Yes stockpile, it will now just take more then just R1R1R1 to stunlock someone. I use greatswords a lot, and feel this was a fair patch. Also the Elite knight set is actually just getting corrected, what it is getting changed to a lot of other people arleady had. Certain regions had a lower poise version(US) and others had the higher poise version(which is what everyone will have now). I think every patch was needed.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    I don't want to come off as a jerk, but why are people complaining so much about this stun-locking nerf? Two hits isn't enough?

    Did they patch that weapon-swap glitch too?
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    Post by Abiathar82 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:23 pm

    Question: Are they slowing all GSs down or just Claymore?


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    Post by Seignar on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:25 pm

    You didn't know about the GS nerf? The Claymore has barely lost its touch. What makes the claymore the claymore is its incredible moveset and quality scaling, not its stunlocking abilities. GS still have plenty of tricks up their sleaves.

    ALSO, the text is somewhat incorrect, they nerfed the follow-up swing so you can't stunlock combo it. The standard 2H R1 is still fast.


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:25 pm

    They literally fixed the game in my opinion, some people think it was excessive. The main ones are: Slight nerf to elemental weapons,DWGR now only works if your equip weight is under or at 25%, Greatsword swing speed. Some others that i'm not entirely sure are true, but i hope are: Backstab damage decreased as well as hornet ring being slightly nerfed, backstab hit box tightened up, medium and fat roll speed slightly increased. Can't wait to test everything next week, i hope all of it is true.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:27 pm

    Exactly Seignar, people are overreacting. I am an avid user of great swords too, so it effects me quite a bit. I'm mainly happy about the MLGS, cause it is just too powerful. It will be much harder to combo with the MLGS, due to its special attacks. Which in my opinion, is a good thing.
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    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:28 pm

    Abiathar82 wrote:Question: I they slowing all GSs down or just Claymore?

    I don't know. That's all the Info i've found but the Claymore WAS a Stun-Lock weapon and alot of People Use it so that's probably why the attention got directed against it.

    I hope they don't ruin the R1 + R2 combo because THAT'S BADASS when it comes to trick players into trying to attack you.

    (SHORT VERSION: It's only the Claymore, right now)



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    Post by Peaceful Wollyhop on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:28 pm

    Jester's Tears wrote:Wanna know why they Patch so much?
    NEW.PLAYERS.
    When people that playes games Like:
    Cod,BF3,Mass Effect,Crysis and Assasins Creed Comes to a Game like Dark Souls. They get their *** handed to them.
    They can't take that the game is (Cap rage incoming) SUPPOSED TO BE HARD. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DIE. DYING MEANS LEARNING.(Cap rage Over)
    They complain about such minor things, WHAT'S NEXT? You can summon 6 people instead of 2?

    It's annyoing. I DO Bit*h about Stun-Locking but i know it's there for Balance. ''New Players'' screams in rage everytime a Hollow attacks them from behind since they weren't paying attention.

    You understand.



    I think this is a stupid statement. You can't say that these patches and buffs/nefs are the fault of new players.

    Everyone seems to complain about new players complaining but I used to when I first started playing Demon Souls but of course I've got better at the game and learnt. Now everyone can't be vets at the game and have played since the beginning, you have to be a new player at some point. And if you're new to Dark Souls then you're sure as hell gonna complain, I wouldn't expect them not to.

    If you think that that From are catering to the new players and changing the game for them then I think you've misjudged From.


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:32 pm

    I've seen video proof that all greatswords swing speeds where nerfed.
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    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:35 pm

    Peaceful Wollyhop wrote:
    Jester's Tears wrote:Wanna know why they Patch so much?
    NEW.PLAYERS.
    When people that playes games Like:
    Cod,BF3,Mass Effect,Crysis and Assasins Creed Comes to a Game like Dark Souls. They get their *** handed to them.
    They can't take that the game is (Cap rage incoming) SUPPOSED TO BE HARD. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DIE. DYING MEANS LEARNING.(Cap rage Over)
    They complain about such minor things, WHAT'S NEXT? You can summon 6 people instead of 2?

    It's annyoing. I DO Bit*h about Stun-Locking but i know it's there for Balance. ''New Players'' screams in rage everytime a Hollow attacks them from behind since they weren't paying attention.

    You understand.



    I think this is a stupid statement. You can't say that these patches and buffs/nefs are the fault of new players.

    Everyone seems to complain about new players complaining but I used to when I first started playing Demon Souls but of course I've got better at the game and learnt. Now everyone can't be vets at the game and have played since the beginning, you have to be a new player at some point. And if you're new to Dark Souls then you're sure as hell gonna complain, I wouldn't expect them not to.

    If you think that that From are catering to the new players and changing the game for them then I think you've misjudged From.

    Good response. 1+ if i could.
    But. The majority of Complains COMES from ''Noobs''. I DO MYSELF Complain about things here and then but still.
    Of course not everyone Can be Veterans but when the game says
    ''PREPARE TO DIE'' you should know you're in for a BAD.TIME.
    So yeah. Someone could probably come up with something better to say then me.
    They complain about Simple things.(CAP rage inbound) DAMN. I USED TO COMPLAIN ON HOW THE SHIELD BLOCKED THE LEGS OF A PLAYER WHEN THE SHIELD WEREN'T COVERING THEM. (Cap rage. Over)
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    Post by SlakeMoth on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:50 pm

    I think the Claymore is too slow already but that's because I'm so used to using Katanas.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:09 pm

    awww, cmon man. Play how you want, but that is so boring. Not that i never use a katana, but it gets so old when EVERYONE uses one. So many amazing weapons in this game and people only use like 5 of them....Also i felt the greatswords were pretty fast for how much poise damage they did, along with doing great damage.
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    Post by Seignar on Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:16 pm

    Also i felt the greatswords were pretty fast for how much poise damage they did, along with doing great damage.
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    Post by Rudmed on Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:56 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:I've seen video proof that all greatswords swing speeds where nerfed.

    Something tells me I'm not gonna see the BKS anymore. I felt that thing was incredibly slower than other greatswords.

    Also about the stunlock nerf they are changing it where you are just poise broken for like two seconds (as long as I get an extra hit in I'm fine with that).


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    Post by Abiathar82 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:31 pm

    Well I think we will just see more Zweihanders now. But seriously , I think the stun lock is legit. Really any large weapon should stun lock. Especially now that DWGR will only apply below 25 % . It will be harded to do that with large weapons. Stun lock kind of made up for the extra weight and slower swing speeds. But I see a lot of light weight builds in PVP so those are the complainers. Oh well , all good things come to an end I guess.

    Not sure how many COD: MW2 fans there are here but , those that are I am sure you remember the Akimbo Models nerf. I always thought of Models as a present for getting lvl 69. Anyway sidetracked........


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:36 pm

    actually the black knight sword may have gotten a damage buff, and all the gs's are moving at the same speed as each other on pc.


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    Post by Abiathar82 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:38 pm

    Oh ok , so really they probably just slowed down Bastard and Claymore , since they were just a bit faster than the others.


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    Post by Rudmed on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:44 pm

    Well the stunlocking thing is all heresay. I'm not sure if it is true, but what I've been seeing and reading..you might be able to still stunlock people. The greatsword (like the claymore) did that much easier than everything else (thus the recovering swing nerf).

    The BKS got a buff in damage? That was my 1st pvp weapon (I just picked it up again as a cosplay, but...I really want to use it again).


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:50 pm

    what i meant is that all the gs's now swing at the new slower speed, besides the slower second hit can be negated by taking a step and pressing r1 again to do the first hit move again, and the claymores rolling stab is as brutal as ever.


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