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    Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Steel Dragon74 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:59 pm

    Hi
    Im new to these forums and I just thought that I would introduce myself and at the same time get an answer to a question i have and get some opinions on a build that i made.

    Ok question first: Since the DLC is coming out soon what is the new main PVP level(s) looking to be

    And the build: http://tinyurl.com/9hkydz7
    All opinions are apreciated

    Its nice to meet you all

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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by callipygias on Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:06 pm

    Lots of 100's for the Arena, quite a few 200's as well. Outside of the Arena on the pc the majority I've found are still doing 120's. Plus the occasional specialized low-level build.


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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Marino. on Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:32 pm

    As for me . It takes forever to get a random match in the Arena (and i never got to be in a ffa sad)
    And the regular PVP Spots (Painted, Kiln, Burg etc) are still pretty crowded with some decent Players .

    So dont worry too much about it winking
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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Fatneckwood on Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:57 pm

    Only thing I'd do differently since you have an open ring slot.

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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Steel Dragon74 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:14 pm

    The open ring slot is to change things up a bit depending on what mood im in.
    e.g DWGR if I want to flip, Hornet if im feeling back staby, Wolf if I want to tank a bit, Fog if I dont want to get hit by persuers/HCSM etc.
    Thanks for the advice thought and its nice to meet you
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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Mr. Tart on Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:18 pm

    I'm not really good with reworking other peoples builds so i'm just gonna point out the obvious, that is far too much endurance. I really suggest you try to rework the build, possibly changing some pieces of armor so that you can lower the amount of endurance if you really want fast rolls, because that's a whole lot of points that could go elsewhere. Other than that, i would just like to give ya a warm welcome Sun


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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Fatneckwood on Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:32 pm

    Steel Dragon74 wrote:The open ring slot is to change things up a bit depending on what mood im in.
    e.g DWGR if I want to flip, Hornet if im feeling back staby, Wolf if I want to tank a bit, Fog if I dont want to get hit by persuers/HCSM etc.
    Thanks for the advice thought and its nice to meet you

    Ah I see. My mistake. But it is true, you have too much end to just use fast roll. Your end is similar to one with ultra greatswords and heavy armor mid-fat rolling. You should probably change your armor choices a little and put some points into vit, itll give you a lil more survivability.

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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Steel Dragon74 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:55 pm

    I know what you mean
    I have been going over many variations of that build
    While I like a challenge trying to make a build that fits in the paramiters that I gave myself when I started making it (can use Goughs Greatbow, can fast roll, has a free ring slot, is at least decent in melee and uses the dark mask and chesters coat (that last ones not required I just think it looks cool) is really hard

    If anyone can help me find a solution to this it would be much apreciated because this is starting to drive me insane


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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by lorenzo110 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:57 pm

    This is my opinion. I believe there will be a big migration to the higher soul levels. I think the game devs nerfed alot of these items to actually punish lower level settlers. People who stay at a particular low level to grief or do other frowned upon things to the less skill and experianced noobs who are starting out. A better way they could have accomplished this though is by rewarding those who actually level up, making all items in the game only being able to be upgraded by soul levels. The higher you go the more you can upgrade a weapon until you have reached 700 where weapons and armors would max out. As I have stated before in other forums my thoughts are that with a combo of the havel ring and fathers mask even nerfed you will still have the ability to flip at max out stats if you want. Though probably full havels and like wise heavier full armor may not, a combo of them with other armor variations still will. I know there are many ardent players who are of the belief that 120 should and always will be the main level I think they should be prepared to face a more real possibility that this may no longer be the case. Those who continue to stay at lower level pvp may start to find themselves at a disadvantage.

    I am sure I will hear those stating you can max out your END stats and still stay at or near the 120 sl. Yes this may be the case but again you put yourself at a disadvantage becuase you will be limited to using smaller weapons and no spells bascially as well as very poor armor protection. And as we know most flippers are heavy builds with heavy weapon choices for the most part as well as powerful spell casting. Its my opin that the game devs are basically saying to all in the community you cant have it both ways. To the settlers stay lower and fight at a disadvantage and to the tank flippers you won't be able to flip at lower sl anymore so level up.

    Another observation I am starting to notice is a rise in lower level invaders who are invading the higher levels. This is mere speculation but there may be changes on the peer to peer protocols to this game that we may not be aware of. I fight at sl 710 in the forest and notice a large amount of toons that could not be more then sl 200 I was fighting against. I basically was one hit killing them with no hornets ring or buff on my weapon. This is starting to become more common now up here. If this is something that will be more common after the DLC I feel many lower level pvp players will be at a very huge disadvantage when invading. Maybe that was their reasoning on creating the new areana area. They may be pushing players to now utilize that new aspect of pvp instead of just invading game areas. Making it even more difficult for invaders who like area invading and may not want to do the areana pvp. Again just speculation on my part and my opin.
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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Steel Dragon74 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:10 pm

    Man that was a long post
    and yeah your right you can max end and stay around 120 (as i did above) but as it was said by Tart its not necesary
    But still god damn Namco for making this bow so hard to put in fast roll builds


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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by lorenzo110 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:51 pm

    Sorry for it being long but just my thought on the whole new system that is being put in place. Those that utilize fast roll medium roll or whatever these changes will affect you as well. People that do not think it will are only fooling themselves. I totally believe that not just the flippers but every single person in the DKS community needs to prepare for the drastic changes in this games pvp landscape. All believe that there are changes coming some that we know of but some that we may not be aware of that will effect all soul levels in this game. One aspect may be the invasion levels cap or non cap if that may be the case. This could definately effect those that do not want to use the areana in the new DLC, but continue to invade areas of the game. Again just my thoughts and opin.
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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Steel Dragon74 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:08 pm

    True
    I've been preparing since I heard that the DLC was coming


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    Re: Hello, a question and your opinions

    Post by Steel Dragon74 on Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:31 am

    How about this
    http://tinyurl.com/9zupe8d

    Its a step in the right direction but the end is still a bit high for my liking


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