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    Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:38 pm

    (RANDOM MOMENT POST.)

    So im PvP'ing in the Burg right now and i got summoned what seemed to be a Faith Spammer. When i did the ''Coming Up'' animation he ran behind me with (?) Great Club and had talisman in the other hand so i went ''Ahh shiiieeettt...'' (Obvious Backstab is Obvious Look Skyward )

    I knew from his armor that he had NO poise so i could just Stun-Lock him to death. (Playing Tank with Chaos Claymore) He backstabbed me two times but they diden't hit due to me hiting a WoG the second he ran for my back but i still got the Animation where i got kicked and he used that time to heal.

    I finaly got tierd and stun-locked him to death...SHOULD I FEEL BAD NOW?


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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by StockpileThomas on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:15 pm

    No.

    I think it's funny when people say stun-locking is cheap.

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    Post by ChizFreak on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:16 pm

    What armor were you using at the time?


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    Post by Ghadis_God on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:18 pm

    No. Stunlocking is not only not cheap, it's the only way to balance slow weapons. The PTD is going to bone Greatswords over because they're so easy and predictable to dodge that being able to stunlock faster people was their chief advantage.


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    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:22 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:What armor were you using at the time?

    I was Tanking so Black Iron Chest and Head +5 and Golem Legs and Golem Gauntlets with Mid-Roll

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    Post by Siegfried. on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:23 pm

    Put me in with the "stunlocking is cool beans" crowd. What I like about stunlock is that it makes split-damage weapons legitimately viable, since your reduced damage as compared to a buffed or str/dex scaled weapon doesn't matter if you can hit the other guy four times without fearing retaliation. So an intelligence or faith build with low str/dex can compete with other builds in close combat if they use a weapon that's good for stunlock, becuase when you're dealing with stunlock, the battle becomes about who can limit their adversary more effectively rather than being about who can deal the most raw damage.
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    Post by Ghadis_God on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:24 pm

    You don't need the ring of steel protection with that armor, defense points over 400 block very little damage because they hit diminishing returns. Go for the Wolf instead, you'll have unstoppable poise.


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    Post by ChizFreak on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:26 pm

    Ghadis_God wrote:No. Stunlocking is not only not cheap, it's the only way to balance slow weapons. The PTD is going to bone Greatswords over because they're so easy and predictable to dodge that being able to stunlock faster people was their chief advantage.

    Yes, no one uses them anymore because they suck. Greatswords were good because they were fast and did solid damage, but now when 2-handed is too slow. Stunlock was secondary, the main issue with them now it's that they are too slow when 2-handed (making difficult to get stunlock at the same time), and 1-handed it's too easy to parry.


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    Post by ChizFreak on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:27 pm

    Ghadis_God wrote:You don't need the ring of steel protection with that armor, defense points over 400 block very little damage because they hit diminishing returns. Go for the Wolf instead, you'll have unstoppable poise.

    Poise it's not as important as it were pre-ptd.


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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by Jester's Tears on Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:30 pm

    WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM THESE POSTS:
    -Stun-Locking is not cheap but i still hate getting Locked.
    -My armor has more Def then i tought...
    -Wolf Ring Owns with my current set Well What is it


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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by vatar5 on Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:16 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:No. Stunlocking is not only not cheap, it's the only way to balance slow weapons. The PTD is going to bone Greatswords over because they're so easy and predictable to dodge that being able to stunlock faster people was their chief advantage.

    Yes, no one uses them anymore because they suck. Greatswords were good because they were fast and did solid damage, but now when 2-handed is too slow. Stunlock was secondary, the main issue with them now it's that they are too slow when 2-handed (making difficult to get stunlock at the same time), and 1-handed it's too easy to parry.


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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by ChizFreak on Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:06 pm

    vatar5 wrote:
    ChizFreak wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:No. Stunlocking is not only not cheap, it's the only way to balance slow weapons. The PTD is going to bone Greatswords over because they're so easy and predictable to dodge that being able to stunlock faster people was their chief advantage.

    Yes, no one uses them anymore because they suck. Greatswords were good because they were fast and did solid damage, but now when 2-handed is too slow. Stunlock was secondary, the main issue with them now it's that they are too slow when 2-handed (making difficult to get stunlock at the same time), and 1-handed it's too easy to parry.


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    I DARE YOU!

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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by Juutas on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:24 am

    I can escape stunlocks and it rarely becomes problem, but it still feels retarted to me: "LET ME SHOW MY BUILD AND SKILL BY R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R...." *sigh* when people still didn't know about the toggle glitch it was one of the most op things in the game.

    edit: but no, original poster you didn't do anything wrong.


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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:20 am

    Juutas wrote:I can escape stunlocks and it rarely becomes problem, but it still feels retarted to me: "LET ME SHOW MY BUILD AND SKILL BY R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R...." *sigh* when people still didn't know about the toggle glitch it was one of the most op things in the game.

    edit: but no, original poster you didn't do anything wrong.

    Can't escape hammers stunlocks, unless something ninja, but I think that with lag, and at the proper distance, it's impossible to escape from a hammer stunlock (Mace, Club, Spiked Club, Pickaxe, small hammers).

    The one I think you can escape from it's small axes (Battle Axe, Golem Axe, Gargolye Axe?)


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    Re: Did i just do a good thing?

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:22 am

    ChizFreak wrote:
    vatar5 wrote:
    ChizFreak wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:No. Stunlocking is not only not cheap, it's the only way to balance slow weapons. The PTD is going to bone Greatswords over because they're so easy and predictable to dodge that being able to stunlock faster people was their chief advantage.

    Yes, no one uses them anymore because they suck. Greatswords were good because they were fast and did solid damage, but now when 2-handed is too slow. Stunlock was secondary, the main issue with them now it's that they are too slow when 2-handed (making difficult to get stunlock at the same time), and 1-handed it's too easy to parry.


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    I DARE YOU!

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