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    People do not cease to amaze me...

    Post by Yesuurd on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:11 pm

    Had not pvp'd since yesterday, went in to the forest, full DW armor BK setup faith etc...

    Have not lost one fight out of 6, 5 of them vs 2 players at once.
    So I get into an invasion and I see someone else invades as a BP,
    I see at the distance tha fight 2v1 so I go thinking let me even the
    odds for him, I BS the white phantom and leave the guy to fight but
    he is getting his *** kicked, the host starts running and I go after him
    he spams WOG at me and I dodge then he swings his moonlight at me,
    hits me once and I use my WOG which I only have the one spell then I BS
    the guy.Guess who BS'd me right after? The BP whom I just saved, thank
    you very much....
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    Post by Brokewilly on Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:55 pm

    Yesuurd wrote:Had not pvp'd since yesterday, went in to the forest, full DW armor BK setup faith etc...

    Have not lost one fight out of 6, 5 of them vs 2 players at once.
    So I get into an invasion and I see someone else invades as a BP,
    I see at the distance tha fight 2v1 so I go thinking let me even the
    odds for him, I BS the white phantom and leave the guy to fight but
    he is getting his *** kicked, the host starts running and I go after him
    he spams WOG at me and I dodge then he swings his moonlight at me,
    hits me once and I use my WOG which I only have the one spell then I BS
    the guy.Guess who BS'd me right after? The BP whom I just saved, thank
    you very much....

    Yesurd - you have to be careful when you invade and a host is fighting a black spirit (i.e. non-forest covenant member) because it can be deceiving. I have invaded and from what a distanced appeared to be host fighting another dark spirit (red or black) was really a set-up. They may have wanted you to get closer so they can suddenly both jump on you. Or it could have been simply the dark phantom thought you were easier pickings so he decided to help finish you off for some souls before he got slaughtered by the host. I even invaded one time and a dark spirit and I was kicking a host butt then suddenly the dark phantom started to attack me with soul spears from the side - don't know if it was mistake or not (bad aiming maybe). Luckily another forest member invaded and we were able to kill the host before the red spirit could cause anymore mischief cheers

    The forest is chaotic place so take a moment if possible to see what is going before closing the distance to the enemy.

    “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”- Sun Tzu


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    Post by DxV04 on Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:08 pm

    Brokewilly summed it up well. I have had my share of BP BS. So if I find myself in a situation like yours where the BP is 1v1 against the host I let him deal with it. I just work to keep the host from summoning someone else. If the BP wins then ok if does not then thats ok too!
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:37 pm

    had one of those, ended up killing them and the host in one bs each....


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    Post by reim0027 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:14 am

    If it was anywhere else, I would say they were dueling. When I'm in the burg and dueling or hosting, we will jump anyone who interrupts us. It is rough, since some people don't understand dueling. Sometimes, I'll send a PM telling him we are one vs one here. But the forest? Prolly not the case.


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    Post by User on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:25 am

    To be fair, you were fighting with an Invader of the opposite colour. That being's ties with you is 'hey look, more souls!'. I have met Red Phantoms as a Blue Phantom that has helped me and bowed with me after killing them... and I have met Red Phantoms killing me after killing the host. It is all a round of killing, seeking their own riches. Morals are for those who are not thrusted with the idea of better claim.

    Of course, abusing such things causes others to break such Morals, in which becomes a blood fest of Red and Blue Phantoms that might turn against each other before they kill the host for their own thirst. Do not bow, unless that being bows. Always watch your back when your 'friends' cover you. In a world where you are mostly all alone, you are going to have to not trust those that you would think as your ally. Be ready to defend and counter when can. Use your viewing as much as possible, and watch your back.
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    Post by Yesuurd on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:26 am

    yeh I know all that, and appreciate your input guys thanks to every one of you for your replies, it has happened before.
    In fact I didn't even care much since I had already killed the host and a phantom,
    but it is as Acidic Cook said, some people are just thinking souls, souls, souls and
    who can blame them?

    Maybe I project my morals too much onto others, since right now really I pvp for reasons other than humanity and souls, but I can't expect people to have my same ideals.

    So I guess it's just me ranting a bit to all of you who live this everyday like me, I get he should have taken his chance to kill me for the souls and maybe I would too in an earlier stage of my gameplay, but I felt like "damn I thought he would have appreciated what I did this time, ohh no wait BS time for yesuurd again"

    You know this is an interesting subject for many reasons and the main one is to me, that when people
    see behavior like this in the game or other kind of behavior that is not very honorable, it influences alot the future gameplay of others depending on how strong and how mature their mind is.I think many of the people who do the stuff all of us sometimes hate, were driven to it by other player's actions and decided to join the dark side or whatever because they got tired of playing fair and always being deceived, still there are others who can still against all odds maintain an air of honorability and to you who still do, I salute you and congratulate you.

    Keep on my friends!



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    Post by Midgar on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:32 am

    Why is this a surprise? I would've done the same thing. Unless you are both blue phantoms he definitely isn't on your team.


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    Re: People do not cease to amaze me...

    Post by User on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:34 am

    The Enemy of my Enemy, is my friend

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    Post by Midgar on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:37 am

    He's your friend up until your common enemy is dead :p


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    Re: People do not cease to amaze me...

    Post by User on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:41 am

    True. 2 vs 1 vs 1 seems less appealing than 2 vs 2 for most, until one side of the 1 vs 1 becomes a victor... Then a few seconds remain for some extra points.
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    Post by JY4answer on Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:33 am

    reim0027 wrote:If it was anywhere else, I would say they were dueling. When I'm in the burg and dueling or hosting, we will jump anyone who interrupts us. It is rough, since some people don't understand dueling. Sometimes, I'll send a PM telling him we are one vs one here. But the forest? Prolly not the case.

    ^That. If I were dueling with someone and some random guy comes and attacks, me and opponent will be more than happy to shoo him off or kill him, and then continue our duel after a bow. Most players are more than happy to do that too, at the Kiln at least.
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    Post by Yesuurd on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:09 am

    I think the word duel is solely based on even opponents, usually 1v1, this was a guy being beaten to a pulp 2v1.


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    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:47 am

    i go by the situation. if i'm just looking for action reds,whites,hosts are all fair game esp in the forest. (although i'm up front about it, no false pretence then bs) but if i'm in the painted world or kiln im looking for a 1v1 so i'll even the odds if necessary then back off and kill whomever is left.


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    Post by aceluby on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:11 am

    If it were me I would have killed the white, then the red, then go after the host. It's the forest... anything goes.


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    Post by Yesuurd on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:29 am

    aceluby wrote:If it were me I would have killed the white, then the red, then go after the host. It's the forest... anything goes.

    This helps me, I am changing my game no, no remorse...
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    Yesuurd wrote:
    aceluby wrote:If it were me I would have killed the white, then the red, then go after the host. It's the forest... anything goes.

    This helps me, I am changing my game no, no remorse...

    no repent, we don't care what it meant
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    Post by meridam99 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:00 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:The Enemy of my Enemy, is my friend

    What about the enemy of your enemy of their enemy? Are you on speaking terms?


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    Post by Yesuurd on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:14 pm

    Forest=enemies=souls

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    Post by User on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:46 pm

    meridam99 wrote:
    Acidic_Cook wrote:The Enemy of my Enemy, is my friend

    What about the enemy of your enemy of their enemy? Are you on speaking terms?

    No. Because the Enemy of My enemy, in which is the enemy of my enemy, would have a possibility of a mutual friendship agaisnt the the enemy of my enemy, which is my mutual friend, and would attack my enemy of my enemy, in which case my enemy will either kill my enemy of my enemy, or me. In this case, the enemy of my enemy of their enemy is probably not my friend.

    In this case, a Smacking will be needed to give him an understanding of what I mean. Clonk!
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    Post by JY4answer on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:57 pm

    ^ I didn't even bother trying to see if all that made sense
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    Acidic_Cook wrote:
    meridam99 wrote:
    Acidic_Cook wrote:The Enemy of my Enemy, is my friend

    What about the enemy of your enemy of their enemy? Are you on speaking terms?

    No. Because the Enemy of My enemy, in which is the enemy of my enemy, would have a possibility of a mutual friendship agaisnt the the enemy of my enemy, which is my mutual friend, and would attack my enemy of my enemy, in which case my enemy will either kill my enemy of my enemy, or me. In this case, the enemy of my enemy of their enemy is probably not my friend.

    In this case, a Smacking will be needed to give him an understanding of what I mean. Clonk!

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