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    heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Rynn on Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:52 am

    How much? 50%? 10%?
    This is important because backstabs are an important part of my ganking diet, and i need to know how well the best cure for gankers was scaled back.

    Furthermore, do you think the darkwood grain ring nerf probably brought the Ultra Great Weaponry back into the light of "consider using"? I think that now that most players will stop at 25% weight, it might be easier to make use of the ultra weaponry, due to more reliable stunning.
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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:36 am

    Ultra weapons are more viable now yes, because not just that but while swinging a heavy weapon now light attacks won't interrupt it.

    As well while backstabs are nice against gankers, there are still many tricks. Sorcery is still a very powerful tool against gankers.

    In regards to BS damage, I heard it was reduced by 30%.
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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Rynn on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:41 am

    if BS have been very harshly harmed, i might consider removing my hornet ring for the Dark Wood Grain Ring. After the nerf, that animation is pretty rare i bet, and the extra i-frames will probably really help with the new hell magic.
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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by DNL on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:08 pm

    in 90% of fights on pc, people still fish for backstabs and hornet ring + red stone tear ring can still oneshot people
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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Knight Alundil on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:10 pm

    DNL wrote:in 90% of fights on pc, people still fish for backstabs and hornet ring + red stone tear ring can still oneshot people

    Yeh backstab fishing is still just as effective. Getting two really isn't that different to getting 1.

    Also on the point of ganks, if you're a sorcerer blasting a few chasers would definately thin their numbers.

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    Post by Uparkaam on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 pm

    And chainstabbing is still lethal.


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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Rynn on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:12 pm

    i mostly play in the forest, so i do everything, 99/99/99/99 stats in my damage skills.
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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by ICEFANG on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Ultra weapons are more viable now yes, because not just that but while swinging a heavy weapon now light attacks won't interrupt it.

    As well while backstabs are nice against gankers, there are still many tricks. Sorcery is still a very powerful tool against gankers.

    In regards to BS damage, I heard it was reduced by 30%.

    Are you referring to hyper armor? That does not exist, I tested it with Ultra Swords Clubs and Axes.


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    Post by RANT on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:09 pm

    Sadly no Hyper armour sad


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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Dante_000 on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 pm

    Hyper armour is on one weapon.

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    My mind just failed big time, thought the Abyss sword was a Ultra


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    Post by Knight Alundil on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 pm

    lol "Le"

    And really? Only one? That's ***.

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    Post by ICEFANG on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:23 pm

    But isn't it just for the special R2 attack? I dunno if I would call that Hyper Armor.


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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:25 pm

    Damnit, the DLC needs to come out so I can stop saying, "I hear this is like that." I want to say, "I tested it, and this is like that!"
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    Post by ICEFANG on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:26 pm

    I tested enough stuff to assume that everything anyone says is false unless I see a video of it. I mean it really seemed like every one I heard was just from their dreams or something.


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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Knight Alundil on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:26 pm

    I wish it would too. You have no idea how tempting it is to be like "AWW MAN WAIT TIL YOU SEE.." but ofc I cant do that. sad

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    Post by Knight Alundil on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:27 pm

    Also, In my experience on the pc edition backstabbing seems generally the same with the exception of the HR.

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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:29 pm

    "Hey did you know on the PC version if you hit Reah with a whip three times, she takes her clothes off?"

    I've got to admit, there are some cases where I do like this misinformation coming in.
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    Post by Knight Alundil on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 pm

    Missinformation? Nah man that ones spot on.


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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Marino. on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:35 pm

    About the Hyper Armor i can say one thing for sure : Ultra Greatswords, Curved Greatswords, Greatswords (Claymore, Abbys), Clubs and Great Axe's R2 jumping attack have Hyper armor , tested it with 0 Poise on several mobs that stun people with 0 Poise . I think every Weapons jump attack has hyper armor .

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    Post by Spurgun on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:42 pm

    I thought all jump attacks had hyper armor (before and after patch).

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    Post by Marino. on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:48 pm

    Spurgun wrote:I thought all jump attacks had hyper armor (before and after patch).

    No they hadnt . It looked pretty silly . They jump onto me with their big butt Zwei and i poke them with my teeny tiny Velka and cancel their attack silly
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    Post by ChizFreak on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:24 pm

    The Abyss Greatsword's 2-handed strong attack have Hyper Armor. But it's so slow and hard to aim at people that it's useless so...


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    Post by Glutebrah on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:25 pm

    i dont think BS damage was nerfed, only the Hornet ring was


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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Seignar on Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:23 pm

    No they hadnt . It looked pretty silly . They jump onto me with their
    big butt Zwei and i poke them with my teeny tiny Velka and cancel their
    attack silly
    This is what happened to me when I tried to Jump Attack with a Zweihander. It was ridiculous. Can you actually test if it is hyper armor or just added poise?

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    Re: heard BS damage got tanked.Dark Wood Grain Ring Comments

    Post by Derpwraith on Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:25 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Ultra weapons are more viable now yes, because not just that but while swinging a heavy weapon now light attacks won't interrupt it.

    As well while backstabs are nice against gankers, there are still many tricks. Sorcery is still a very powerful tool against gankers.

    In regards to BS damage, I heard it was reduced by 30%.

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