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    Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by SlakeMoth on Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:18 am

    Any theories? I'm asking about the thing the Undead Merchant talks about. He can't surely be talking about the washtub can he? Oh, and keep it clean please (no pun intended, honest).
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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Dante_000 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:23 am

    Well I always thought it was his Katana, but you know it could be he has a daughter/wife in the land of the living.
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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:39 am

    Yulia is the bucket he has on his side. You see him constantly patting it.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:03 am

    I thought it was a reference to Demons Souls..., the witch Yulia or whatever.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Uparkaam on Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:47 am

    It's the basket next to him.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by FellipeMariano on Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:53 am

    I always thought that it was the female merchant in the water-way (the one who sells purge-stones and poison things). Also, they would make a fine couple, won't you agree?

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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by DoughGuy on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:03 am

    Im pretty sure its his precious kat. Although the bucket is a pretty good candidate too.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Siegfried. on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:10 am

    It's most definitely the uchigatana. His dialogue mentions that Yulia is "not for sale" and would "bite your fingers off"; firstly, the Undead Merchant sells other weapons so this one being an exception makes sense; secondly, katanas are stupidly sharp and, like many swords, will mangle wielders who use them improperly.

    The final piece of evidence is that when you attack the Undead Merchant, he calls on Yulia for aid and then pulls out a great big damn katana. I expect a bucket would be small help in battle, unlikely to bite your fingers off and unlikely to catch anyone's eye. But Yulia does all these things, and in context, it makes complete sense that "she" is a special weapon.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:21 am

    Agree with above. Went looking for his dialogue but couldn't find it.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:22 am

    I still think it's his bucket, he's naming inanimate objects, who says he can't give them characteristics that they don't actually have.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by callipygias on Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:42 am

    IV_Mark_VI wrote:Agree with above. Went looking for his dialogue but couldn't find it.
    1,500ish hours into Dark Souls before I triggered that dialog. It was a cool surprise.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:45 am

    Siegfried. wrote:It's most definitely the uchigatana. His dialogue mentions that Yulia is "not for sale" and would "bite your fingers off"; firstly, the Undead Merchant sells other weapons so this one being an exceptional makes sense; secondly, katanas are stupidly sharp and, like many swords, will mangle wielders who use them improperly.

    The final piece of evidence is that when you attack the Undead Merchant, he calls on Yulia for aid and then pulls out a great big damn katana. I expect a bucket would be small help in battle, unlikely to bite your fingers off and unlikely to catch anyone's eye. But Yulia does all these things, and in context, it makes complete sense that "she" is a special weapon.

    I gave you rep for that awesome answer, I was never sure myself and assumed the bucket, but the sword makes perfect sense.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Siegfried. on Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:30 pm

    Thank you. happy

    One other thing worth noting is that the identity of Yulia is intentionally mysterious. When the Undead Merchant mentions that "she" isn't for sale, it draws our curiosity. The only way to find out? Kill him and see what he drops. And what he drops is the katana (while, again, calling on it), solving the mystery of Yulia.

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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Marino. on Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:47 pm

    Yeah it makes sense that he means the Katana .
    But there is one single thing that makes me think its not .

    He constantly pets something beside him . He doesnt pet the bucket itself , but rather something inside it .
    I think Yulia is his imaginary Pet .
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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by SlakeMoth on Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:51 pm

    FellipeMariano wrote:I always thought that it was the female merchant in the water-way (the one who sells purge-stones and poison things). Also, they would make a fine couple, won't you agree?

    Imagine the kids they'd produce!!!

    Thanks for the answers. Personally I don't think it's the Katana, more likely the washtub because after all he's a bit of a basket case.

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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:12 pm

    They probably didn't finish that piece of the game; there's lots of unfinished touches. Maybe they intended to put a weapon there and ran out of time.

    I wouldn't take it literally. The guy that developed the character/animations is likely a different guy that was supposed to put in the sword.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:16 pm

    Marino. wrote:Yeah it makes sense that he means the Katana .
    But there is one single thing that makes me think its not .

    He constantly pets something beside him . He doesnt pet the bucket itself , but rather something inside it .
    I think Yulia is his imaginary Pet .

    Not only would he cut himself petting a katana but you can phyiscally break the bucket and no katanas are falling out . I still think it's the bucket, but they couldn't make him agro if you break the bucket because then new players would be screwed over so often. I would of done it that way.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:22 pm

    Why does he have to pet Yulia, who pets their friends all the time?


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:25 pm

    ICEFANG wrote:Why does he have to pet Yulia, who pets their friends all the time?

    Does the wolf need a good petting.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Siegfried. on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:26 pm

    The thing is, that dialogue isn't there for gits and shiggles -- the developers obviously want to clue you in on something. Why would they clue you in on a bucket? You can see it. But it makes a lot of sense, from a development standpoint, to hide a unique weapon like that and then have dialogue that points in its direction and implies a course of action for acquiring it.

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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by callipygias on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:27 pm

    ^Good point.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:28 pm

    Siegfried. wrote:The thing is, that dialogue isn't there for gits and shiggles -- the developers obviously want to clue you in on something. Why would they clue you in on a bucket? You can see it. But it makes a lot of sense, from a development standpoint, to hide a unique weapon like that and then have dialogue that points in its direction and implies a course of action for acquiring it.

    It could simply be the idea of hiding something right in front of your eyes. The last thing you'd think of? You can argue who is Yulia until the end of time, but what came first, the chicken or the egg.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Siegfried. on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:33 pm

    The egg; chickens evolved from other creatures, and laying eggs as a means of incubation has been around for some millions of years prior to chickens.

    Dark Souls is a game filled to the brim with purpose in its design, and I can scarcely believe in a game with incomplete content (such as incomplete enemies on the disk) that they'd waste development money on telling a voice actor to talk about Yulia when it's a bucket with no use. Every line of dialogue in the game contains information relevant to either the lore, completion of the game, or some reaction to your actions -- I don't see why the Undead Merchant would be any different.
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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:34 pm

    Siegfried. wrote:The egg; chickens evolved from other creatures, and laying eggs as a means of incubation has been around for some millions of years prior to chickens.

    Dark Souls is a game filled to the brim with purpose in its design, and I can scarcely believe in a game with incomplete content (such as incomplete enemies on the disk) that they'd waste development money on telling a voice actor to talk about Yulia when it's a bucket with no use. Every line of dialogue in the game contains information relevant to either the lore, completion of the game, or some reaction to your actions -- I don't see why the Undead Merchant would be any different.

    There isnt much difference between getting a voice actor to talk about a bucket than to get one to talk about a katana.. He doesn't say anything about it being a weapon, he doesn't give any hint toward killing him, and he doesn't give away lore.. Soooo really it's up for debate and there is no honest evidence toward either side. It's all speculation regardless of the points made.


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    Re: Who/what is Yulia?

    Post by Marino. on Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:39 pm

    Then tell me .
    Why does he randomly reach to his right ? To touch the Air ?

    A pet makes perfect sense to me , since a Pet could bite your fingers of. Remember bite, a Katana cant bite, even the Undead Merchant knows that...I hope lol!

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