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    Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:49 pm

    So I was giving it a whirl in the burg and its EXTREMELY similar to the falchion what I mean is its fast, it hits hard in a combo and best thing is this......ITS A FAST STR WEAPON!!


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by XachAttack on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:51 pm

    Choppy choppy! >:D. I use a hybrid build and started using the Hand axe to pretty good effect so far.

    I haven't used it in pvp yet but...soon!


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:52 pm

    Yes it is, butI would only use it as backup for quick finish off. It can't break 21 poise when 2 handed so that makes it worse than a Falchion, and the fast speed works wonders with a buff.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:54 pm

    Its pretty damn underated and needs more love.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:56 pm

    For Str builds that don't use buffs nor have 40 Str I think elemental works better, giving it has some scaling in Dex.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:57 pm

    Then again not many people take the hand axe seriously so ppl underestemated.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:59 pm

    STOP RUINING MY DREAMS!!


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Jansports on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:01 pm

    It seriously demolishes stamina if they try to block to many of its 2hr1s. It will never be the next Big thing in PvP but it's not entirely unusable
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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by StockpileThomas on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:34 pm

    It's one of my favorite side-arms. I've murdered a few brazen invaders with it when my other weapon was too slow. And it's light. Hurrah
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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:37 pm

    It's a good backup weapon, and it breaks as much poise as a greatsword, which is fantastic for catching those nimbler guys who dodge the bigger Str weapons. It also doesn't leave you open after a swing like the other handaxes.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:45 pm

    ^It doesn't ghadis. It's the only small axe that doesn't break 53 poise when 2 handed. Doesn't even break 21.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by RANT on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:49 pm

    While it is good to finish off opponents the reach sucks and it's so easy to parry since you need to be really close to your opponents even when unlocked, I parried wyrm most of the times he used it against me. Other than him I've yet to come up against someone else that uses it.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Rynn on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:51 pm

    The hand axe is not a strength weapon IMHO.
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    Post by Siegfried. on Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:52 pm

    I'd choose a longsword over this. If you compare their damages, the longsword ultimately has a higher damage potential while being a more effective poise breaker and having a more diverse moveset. The hand axe is a good light weapon for characters under 10 dexterity, but those characters are very much in the minority.

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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by callipygias on Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:00 pm

    Doing co-op in the Burg my host was invaded by a pyro with a hand axe. I ran away quick to switch from my +5 Chaos Rapier to my +0 Warpick because I thought he was my first honest Burg invader. Four electric chops later I realized that he was just the most deceitful one.

    So yes, I agree. Pretty effective weapon.


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by StockpileThomas on Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:09 pm

    Siegfried. wrote:I'd choose a longsword over this. If you compare their damages, the longsword ultimately has a higher damage potential while being a more effective poise breaker and having a more diverse moveset. The hand axe is a good light weapon for characters under 10 dexterity, but those characters are very much in the minority.

    At 40 str and 10 dex, the damage difference between the Handaxe and Long Sword is negligible.

    It only weighs 2.0 too. I think this weapon's appeal is mostly the surprise factor. Hurrah
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    Post by Siegfried. on Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:15 pm

    Thing is, the longsword outdamages the hand axe as early as 15 dexterity, single-handed, and 20 dexterity two-handed (at base strength 27, at least). It also has more range, a better moveset and deals more poise damage. The hand axe really has nothing on it except for weight.
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    Post by StockpileThomas on Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:25 pm

    Siegfried. wrote:Thing is, the longsword outdamages the hand axe as early as 15 dexterity, single-handed, and 20 dexterity two-handed (at base strength 27, at least). It also has more range, a better moveset and deals more poise damage. The hand axe really has nothing on it except for weight.

    Strength builds shouldn't have more than 10 dex. I agree, the Hand Axe has crap range, but it doesn't have a penalty for missing either. Sure, long swords might have a "better" move set and slightly better stats, but I like the Hand Axe... it looks cool and that's more important to me than negligible stat differences. Praise the Sun
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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:27 pm

    The guy has something against Str weapons. You got a problem bro?


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:11 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:^It doesn't ghadis. It's the only small axe that doesn't break 53 poise when 2 handed. Doesn't even break 21.
    Really? my mistake then, I thought all of the small axes did.


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    Post by Siegfried. on Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:31 pm

    StockpileThomas wrote:Strength builds shouldn't have more than 10 dex. I agree, the Hand Axe has crap range, but it doesn't have a penalty for missing either. Sure, long swords might have a "better" move set and slightly better stats, but I like the Hand Axe... it looks cool and that's more important to me than negligible stat differences. Praise the Sun

    I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from using it, mind you; the golden rule of Dark Souls weapons is "If it works for you, it works", and no amount of theorycrafting can change that.

    Jus' saiyan that the hand axe has a very specific and limited build application. A good light weapon for a strength build, but that's about it, 'cause if you have any decent amount of dexterity, something else is going to be "objectively" better (exception: see golden rule above).
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    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:50 pm

    I have 18 dex for blakk knight weps I forgot to get a longsword.


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    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:47 pm

    Dude, if you like the hand axe so much try the pickaxe/war pick. I agree completely. Especially on a slow strength build having the hand axe in your off hand is perfect to deal with katana builds who just ninja flip all over the map or abuse the **** out of i-frames or fish.. It has amazing stunlock and amazing damage. The pickaxe is just as fun, as well as the Reinforced club. Try em happy


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    Re: Hand axe is a viable strength wep

    Post by ssss_2_is_pwnage on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:48 pm

    StockpileThomas wrote:
    Siegfried. wrote:Thing is, the longsword outdamages the hand axe as early as 15 dexterity, single-handed, and 20 dexterity two-handed (at base strength 27, at least). It also has more range, a better moveset and deals more poise damage. The hand axe really has nothing on it except for weight.

    Strength builds shouldn't have more than 10 dex. I agree, the Hand Axe has crap range, but it doesn't have a penalty for missing either. Sure, long swords might have a "better" move set and slightly better stats, but I like the Hand Axe... it looks cool and that's more important to me than negligible stat differences.

    Long sword is a quality weapon.. for a strength build it's less useful, slower, less stunlock, less DPS and easier parry :|


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    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:58 pm

    Apickaxe isn't as viable since if you miss you suffer, hand axe is the falchion of str weps.


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