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    Level of fast rolls?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:47 am

    Does ANYONE know the varying levels of fast rolls? Like what percent do you get a fast roll that's only a bit behind a DWGR flip.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:53 am

    Huh??

    Fast roll - 25%
    Medium roll -50%
    Fa roll - 75%


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by RANT on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:16 am

    Holy crap that just gave me a headache.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by Myztyrio on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:29 am

    How is this person like... Here.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by FinPeku on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:31 am

    Here they are:

    Fast roll equip burden breakpoints:
    0% - fastest
    8.3% (25% * 1/3) - ultra fast
    16.6% (25% * 2/3) - super fast
    25% - fast

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22jsJ8D2WKw

    Imo, the difference is so small that i'm not sure does it ever matter. Do you think so eki?



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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:34 am

    Look Skyward Look Skyward Look Skyward if you have ever paid attention you fast roll faster with no gear on, and at 25% you're alot slower. I'm sure someone even did a comparison of the two side by side.

    I'm wondering how much of a difference it is and what % I need to be able to imitate the flip's speed while still having gear (it's probably 10%)

    Edit: thank you fin for understanding what I meant.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by Seignar on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:34 am

    Surprised no one seems to know about the secret fast rolls. They grant very few lower recovery frames, but I'm sure if we compare 25 to 0, it is quite noticeable.
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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:40 am

    Time to do the dragon claws build with super I frames.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:49 am

    You Rack stamina to roll >_>


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by WyrmHero on Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:57 am

    Stamina is overrated.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:18 am

    watching the video the roll speeds are all the same, the only difference is the time in between rolls, or before you can do a 2nd roll.

    how ever that is interesting i never knew that


    i always did wonder how this guy was flipping so fast with no down time between rolls. hacked 0% equip burden


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:21 am

    Which is important when compared to the flip which can be done one after another with only a split second stop. Hence why I asked, and I now have a build idea that can effectively compare to the DWGR's flip.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by McPenor on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:39 am

    cloudyeki wrote:Which is important when compared to the flip which can be done one after another with only a split second stop. Hence why I asked, and I now have a build idea that can effectively compare to the DWGR's flip.

    Why not just use the DWGR?
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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by DoughGuy on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:47 am

    McPenor wrote:
    cloudyeki wrote:Which is important when compared to the flip which can be done one after another with only a split second stop. Hence why I asked, and I now have a build idea that can effectively compare to the DWGR's flip.

    Why not just use the DWGR?
    Because of the DLC nerf.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by n0rain on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:59 am

    There are varying mid rolls too.


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by Jansports on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:39 am

    I don't really stress about it, the Roll, or rather the timing on and duration of I-frames appears to be consistent throughout the varying breakpoints, only the recovery is sped up. However I don't find myself rolling 3+ times in a row very often in pvp so it's not a huge issue.

    Pretty neat stuff though.
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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:59 am

    DoughGuy wrote:
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    cloudyeki wrote:Which is important when compared to the flip which can be done one after another with only a split second stop. Hence why I asked, and I now have a build idea that can effectively compare to the DWGR's flip.

    Why not just use the DWGR?
    Because of the DLC nerf.

    i guess it depends if you would rather give up a ring slot for the roll, or sacrifice a lot of armor/possibly weapons to reach super low gear weight


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    Re: Level of fast rolls?

    Post by lextune on Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:44 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Time to do the dragon claws build with super I frames.

    I went through to NG++ with just claws. It was super fun.

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