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    Post by xSomax on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:18 pm

    I've noticed a pretty heavy amount of mixed opinions concerning the chaos blade. mostly due to its self damage and Slow R2.

    i think that a lot of people don't realize the R2's use though. first and foremost, chaos blade is a backstab/riposte based weapon. thats why those don't do damage.secondly, if you use your R2 right after a BS/riposte you can get in a second attack for free, with the enemy being un-able to do anything about it.

    anywho, thats my opinion. i wanna see your guys's


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:21 pm

    I never liked katanas in general, but they're extremely powerful both as standalone weapons or buffed. I kinda wished they made them a bit more fragile just to balance out there speed, damage output, scaling, reach, bleed, and buffablity.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:42 pm

    well, the chaos blade is a bit different from regular katana's, as its made from quelaag's soul. its not buff-able, but rather gets better with more humanity. it only has its R1 attack for a good protion of its use, due to the R2 leaving you wide open, taking away from your options in combat as a whole, both during its "charging" phase and after its actual attack, the entire thing taking up to 3 or 4 seconds. in other words, its damage is entirely focused on BS and Riposte. then theres its self damage. honsetly, the chaos blade is a much harder weapon to use, in general than most other katana's. as for the scaling, its only a B, so it could be worse. out of all that, the chaos blade only has reach and bleed. if it weren't for its high crit, the weapon would be near useless


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by Ghadis_God on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:06 pm

    Chaos Blade is beast. I love using it, though I wouldn't say it's a bs/riposte based weapon. It's great for pressuring your opponent and bleeding them out, as well as killing them much faster than other katanas due to the high AR.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:09 pm

    well, yeah, but thats PvP i was talking in a more PvE sense, where backstabs and ripostes are easy to get. the timing on the R2 makes it so if used immediately(well maybe a few split seconds after) a parry/riposte or backstab, that it will go off just as invuln frames stop, and before the enemy is able to react. thats where my stance on the BS/Riposte thing came from


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by Glutebrah on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:13 pm

    xSomax wrote:I've noticed a pretty heavy amount of mixed opinions concerning the chaos blade. mostly due to its self damage and Slow R2.

    i think that a lot of people don't realize the R2's use though. first and foremost, chaos blade is a backstab/riposte based weapon. thats why those don't do damage.secondly, if you use your R2 right after a BS/riposte you can get in a second attack for free, with the enemy being un-able to do anything about it.

    anywho, thats my opinion. i wanna see your guys's

    you can very very very easily parry a R2 attack from a chaos blade after you get up from a BS or riposte. if your opponent starts to wind up a 1 handed R2 as soon as the game lets him after a parry or BS, once you get up you hit parry as fast as you can. 100% parry

    that said i love the chaos blade, why?
    - highest unbuffed Katana damage (i hate buffs)

    - longer range then Iaito and Uchi

    - fastest bleed build up of all katanas (not a big deal but nice)

    - 20hp life drain.

    now you might ask why do i like the life drain? simple, i use the RTSR, and far to many times i get hit by a weapon where i am put at 1 more hit till death (or super close to it) and i am just out of RTSR range, the chaos blade gets me in range. i tried to use the RTSR with out Chaos blade once and i would say i was only active with im 30% of my fights compared to 95% when i use Chaos Blade.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:17 pm

    I think it's marvelous weapon.

    However, I hold its weight (heavier than the Uchi/Iaito) and it's greater (than the Uchi/Iaito) Strength requirement against it.

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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by Glutebrah on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:23 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:I think it's marvelous weapon.

    However, I hold its weight (heavier than the Uchi/Iaito) and it's greater (than the Uchi/Iaito) Strength requirement against it.



    16 str is not a big deal if you are a true dex build and plan on using a great Scythe at any time.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:23 pm

    fair points. on the note of parrying it though, how many people actually think of that?


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by Glutebrah on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:29 pm

    xSomax wrote:fair points. on the note of parrying it though, how many people actually think of that?

    only people that know that the timing lines up, ive been parried doing it in FC with members from here, but never from randoms, and i do it to randoms all the time. i saw it in a youtube video before i tested my self and its real easy to do.. i guess to avoid it though you can just dead angle the attack


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:32 pm

    fair point. in other words,theres a 30-40% chance it may not work? better odds than most stuff in this game


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by Glutebrah on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:37 pm

    xSomax wrote:fair point. in other words,theres a 30-40% chance it may not work? better odds than most stuff in this game



    just do it unlocked and angle the attack, i don't know why i never thought of that before, its an awesome R2 for dead angling, can't be parried then


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:54 pm

    pretty cool ideas


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by fujiphoenix on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:46 am

    Its two handed R2 flattens people to the ground, much like the great lord sword and great hammer R2s
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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:04 pm

    the 2h R2 is pretty cool in my opinion. the char uses his hand to simulate a sheath for a quic draw. thats a pretty awesome idea.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by ChizFreak on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:11 pm

    Too easy to parry. High STR requirement. Life on hit is something bad, but it doesn't really matter too much because it would take too much time to kill; though this makes impossible to participate in long fights, also people who tank with shields will kick your ***. I can tank all day against katana people. I just raise my shield. Hotkey red moss. And I'm ready to parry and riposte you all day.

    There are better weapons which are more versatile. Only good thing about it, it's the high damage (like 70 more AR than other katanas), and bleed that it's standard of most DEX weapons. Not worth it in my opinion. I prefer to play at least in PC, with Ciaran's weapons; or standard buffable katanas. Still I don't like katanas.

    I prefer other weapons. That's why most DEX builds, unless they some magic mixed in, bore me very fast. Katanas are plain boring to use and to fight. Also most people either spam the running thrust attack, or spam the light attack.

    PS: A guy with high poise will beat you because trading hits makes easier for him to use heavier weapons with high damage that will probably stunlock you, or just spam the parry button and riposte.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by xSomax on Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:16 pm

    we never said it was the best weapon. matter of fact, i don't think there IS a best weapon. of course it has its flaws. thats the fun in using it though XD and anyways, if you don't want your life to drop to heavily in long fights, use sanctus or replenishment. simple as that


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    Post by lordgodofhell on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:36 pm

    I skipped the debates on this one, I am getting lazy, need dinner or...tea as some say lol.

    My reaction when I started pvping sl 120, 45 Dex with C Blade...

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    oh C blade where you been all my life???


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by ChizFreak on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:14 pm

    xSomax wrote:we never said it was the best weapon. matter of fact, i don't think there IS a best weapon. of course it has its flaws. thats the fun in using it though XD and anyways, if you don't want your life to drop to heavily in long fights, use sanctus or replenishment. simple as that

    I didn't too. I'm just saying it's not a weapon that's worth it in high levels. In can work in low levels because the life drain is in percentage, and because it does very high damage with min stats. But at high levels there are better options.

    I've beaten most people that use this weapon by having some poise and with my diamond Pickaxe.


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    Re: Chaos Blade Opinions

    Post by Glutebrah on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:52 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:Too easy to parry. High STR requirement. Life on hit is something bad, but it doesn't really matter too much because it would take too much time to kill; though this makes impossible to participate in long fights, also people who tank with shields will kick your ***. I can tank all day against katana people. I just raise my shield. Hotkey red moss. And I'm ready to parry and riposte you all day.

    There are better weapons which are more versatile. Only good thing about it, it's the high damage (like 70 more AR than other katanas), and bleed that it's standard of most DEX weapons. Not worth it in my opinion. I prefer to play at least in PC, with Ciaran's weapons; or standard buffable katanas. Still I don't like katanas.

    I prefer other weapons. That's why most DEX builds, unless they some magic mixed in, bore me very fast. Katanas are plain boring to use and to fight. Also most people either spam the running thrust attack, or spam the light attack.

    PS: A guy with high poise will beat you because trading hits makes easier for him to use heavier weapons with high damage that will probably stunlock you, or just spam the parry button and riposte.

    No one who is half decent is going to R1 spam your Shield to be parried. And any weapon is easily parried when R1 spamming into a shield, its not just katanas.

    The HP drain is a positive IMO, makes rtsr more useful.

    Dex builds don't stand toe toe and trade blows with people who have Hugh poise and heavy weapons. They attack once and get out.

    And the life drain is 20hp, not a percentage.


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