What is the Deal with Carim?

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    What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:52 am

    Well I recently noticed the sheer amount of Carim related characters, items, and lore related content that seems to pop up all over Lordran.

    Does this mean something? Is Astor interested in Lordran?

    I mean even listing things you can see how much content there is actually relavent to this country/province/ city.

    - The Devotee of Fina, Knight Lautrec of Carim (The Favour Set, Ring of Favour and Protection)

    - The Pardoner of Velka, Oswald of Carim ( Black Priest Set, Velka's Rapier)

    - The Bite Rings- Bloodbite, Poisonbite, and Cursebite Rings

    - The Red Tearstone Ring ( I believe there is some sort of lore connection)

    -The Shotel

    -Parrying Dagger\

    -The Sniper Crossbow

    - Curse Stones or whatever they are called.

    So what I want to do si take suggestions or theories on what the deal is this with all of this Carim based content?

    Oh and for those of you who have the DLC content here is my theory on the
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    Basically I think that he is also from Carim. Why? Well he has that same menacing Drawl that I associate with both Lautrec and Oswald. He also has the same perchant for maniacal laughter.... oh and not to mention he uses the Sniper Crossbow...a weapon from Carim....

    SO THEORISE!


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Derpwraith on Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:54 am

    He appears maniacal looking, yes, but his dialogue upon death begs to differ. lololol


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:01 am

    If we are discussing DLC content please put spoilers of any sections pertaining to the characters and lore no matter how small it is please.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Derpwraith on Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:46 am

    Okay then "Mom"..


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by ThatPerson on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:29 am

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    I think the Earl of Carim is Chester. No evidence, though. =w=


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by The_Flail on Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:15 am

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    My guess is that Chester is from Carim, just not from the same time that Lautrec or the Bishop are from. Chesters armor just seems to different to be from the same period.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:25 am

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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Isaren on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:00 pm

    Would it be wrong to assume the DM knightess is from Carim as well?
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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:32 pm

    She may be. She is a fire keeper which we can assume are people tied to the bonfires.

    Anastacia of Astora does give the Idea that fire keepers can come from other countries but I personally think that unless her armour specifies such. Other wise we may be jumping a bit far.

    But yeah her use of the parry dagger is a little odd.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Isaren on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:51 pm

    All her armor says is that after she became undead is when she assumed the role of Fire Keeper. However, Oswald of Carim also uses a rapier and parrying dagger. :/ Her weapons could point to the life she had before she went undead. Just a thought.

    Edit: After watching a Lautrec vid, it also came to memory that he carries the same dagger in his left hand.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Knight Alundil on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:27 pm

    You'd be surprised how many characters accent's change if you see their quests through to completion. I can 100% confirm that Petrus and Griggs end up having that signature "Keh heh heh heh..." Carim laugh big grin

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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:39 am

    But there is no evidence suggesting Petrus and Griggs ever came from anywhere other than where they suggest to you that they are from.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by The_Flail on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:37 pm

    After reading some item descriptions, my guess about carim is that it`s the pllace were most gods have gone after leaving Lordran.

    I also had the Idea that Fina might actually be Gwynevere just under a different name. The description of the Favour armor and the fact that you discover the armor directly outside of Gwynevere`s room always struck me as something that might be connected.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Shkar on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:40 pm

    I find it unlikely that the Gods would go to a place ruled by a man who, by all appearances, sacrifices his own citizens out of paranoia.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by The_Flail on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:49 pm

    Yeah, I really should have read the description of the Purging Stones.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by Bcc17 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:02 pm

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:But there is no evidence suggesting Petrus and Griggs ever came from anywhere other than where they suggest to you that they are from.

    Petrus does indeed have the Carim laugh, only after getting the tip from Lautrec no less...

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    Have you spoken with Sir Lautrec?
    Splendid. In the depths of the Catacombs, M'lady slipped off the giant's coffin and into a hole.
    Her two companions are no longer human; and the lass weeps in solitude.
    Right now, you could do as you please with her. The poor little purebred is entirely helpless.
    Keh heh heh heh…


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by The_Flail on Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:42 am

    So Astor is the Earl of Carim, correct? Now if I am not mistaken the title of Earl is generelly a title reserved for rulers of a county or city-state.

    So I was thinking that Carim might not be a country but rather a county, which then however brings up the question to which country Carim belongs.


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    Re: What is the Deal with Carim?

    Post by The_Flail on Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:53 pm

    While browsing through the Internet I just discovered something interesting (at least for me) about the name of the Earl of Carim.

    Astor is apparently an old german name, that means Hawk and was used as an derogatory term for men with predatory characteristcs.


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