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    Post by WyrmHero Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:54 am

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1789162753971634

    Moonlight Horn as backup.
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    Post by WyrmHero Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:25 am

    PTD version SL 100. Couldn't resist it. sad
    Mugen has the new items/spells btw.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2311473976891611
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    Post by n0rain Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:47 am

    240 Magadj?? No wonder the dark sorceries hit hard! Yeah the shield upgrade paths are also available. We can finally theorycraft the shield's offensive strategies.
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    Post by n0rain Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:42 am

    Instead of creating a new thread for my take on the PTDE items I thought I might post it here if you don't mind.

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    Post by Jovias-86 Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:26 am

    Wyrm... I deleted my strength/INT 99 Zwei build the other day... :p

    Like your build happy

    Im making a strength / Faith now... Hopefully we duel them thn
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    Post by RANT Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:14 am

    i like the second one better and yeah im gonna make a build around manus catalyst cause it scaless with str and dark sorceries hit harder depending on how much str you have, yay!
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    Post by Jansports Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:22 am

    You know at 32 int 40 str it looks like TCC is still higher adjust than Manus' and both halve casts so why not just TCC? It's also lighter.

    Which is absurd? Ohhh the STR scaling on Manus' isn't built into mugen yet, tried sliding str up and down and it didn't move.

    So I guess I could just not post, or leave this here so everyone knows Manus' is missing the STR scaling on mugen
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    Post by RANT Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:26 am

    this i s what i have so far http://tinyurl.com/9sad5vp still working on it.
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    Post by RANT Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:29 am

    Jansports wrote:You know at 32 int 40 str it looks like TCC is still higher adjust than Manus' and both halve casts so why not just TCC? It's also lighter.

    Which is absurd? Ohhh the STR scaling on Manus' isn't built into mugen yet, tried sliding str up and down and it didn't move.

    So I guess I could just not post, or leave this here so everyone knows Manus' is missing the STR scaling on mugen

    we know that, i guess we'l find out when the dlc hits but if i am actually excited to have a cat that scales with str so that's reason enough to make a build around it.
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    Post by Jansports Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:41 am

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    Post by BackstabFisherman Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:56 pm

    Don't get your hopes up too much about the Manus Catalyst. Its really not that good.

    The TCC is higher MagAdjust than Manus if you meet the requirements to use it, which is 32 int. 32 is a good number to be at to use Pursuers. But I wouldn't use pursuers with Manus or TCC, because it would be 2 spell slots for only 1 cast of it, and IMO 2 slots isn't worth 1 cast of anything. If you got 32 INT or higher, the TCC is going to be stronger than Manus no matter what. The STR scaling for the Manus catalyst only effects how much damage you can hit someone with the R2 attack.

    Where the Manus Catalyst might shine is if you want to make a 25 INT build, for just CMW, and then the Manus Cat would be good, because it would be the highest MagAdjust with that setup. The problem is the Manus Cat weighs 5.0, which limits its usefulness greatly, because its so heavy.

    Here is a STR/FTH build I made to counter the STR/INT.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1960284442953796

    Actually, may as well replace wolf ring with hornet's because for me that is a 30% damage buff.
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    Post by Seignar Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:34 pm

    Fisherman, tests have concluded that the Manus' catalyst creates bonus damage for dark sorceries and that STR affects the power of magic casted by Manus' catalyst.

    Manus > TCCfor dark sorceries
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    Post by RANT Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:57 pm

    yeah, you ony need one pursuers to hko someone i think. and like i said before i dont care if its not that good, i LOVE anything that scales with str(mostly pure str) and to have a cat that scales with str its pretty awesome.
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    Post by BackstabFisherman Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:51 pm

    Seignar wrote:Fisherman, tests have concluded that the Manus' catalyst creates bonus damage for dark sorceries and that STR affects the power of magic casted by Manus' catalyst.

    Manus > TCCfor dark sorceries

    If that is true ill test it on my SL 709, without a doubt if you are correct I should see higher numbers using dark spells using the manus?
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    Post by Seignar Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:00 pm

    Ask this guy
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    Post by BackstabFisherman Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:59 pm

    Seignar wrote:Ask this guy

    Looks like that is right. The question remains whether or not the extra 2.5 weight over the TCC is worth it or not.

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