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    Gough's bow question

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:51 pm

    does any know know how powerful this bow is at 40 str 20 dex, compared to the Dragon slayer bow.

    want to know if its worth making a build for this bow or just use Dragon Slayer since it is lighter.


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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by nemesismonkey on Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:25 pm

    467 AR with goughs arrows.
    which is odd really. it seems to add the arrow damage to it twice.

    as i figured out the scaling for it. at 40/20 with no arrows its
    256
    with arrows it should be 362 according to how every other bow works.
    but it is 467, which is 105 more then what it should be, which is the exact ar value of the arrows.

    in contrast the dragon slayer bow has 357 ar with goughs arrows.
    which is correct.


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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:28 pm

    Can Gough's Bow use Dragonslayer Arrows? This is a great question, I'm interested in finding out more about this.

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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by nemesismonkey on Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:29 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Can Gough's Bow use Dragonslayer Arrows? This is a great question, I'm interested in finding out more about this.
    yes.
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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by ChizFreak on Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:30 pm

    So the bow scales better with STR? I'm going to do a STR-FTH build and I wanted to know if I added 20 DEX it would do decent damage.


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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by nemesismonkey on Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:33 pm

    going to 40 dex takes its ar to 534.
    67 ar increase.

    and yes, has b strength scaling and c in dex
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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by Glutebrah on Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:16 pm

    do they both have the same distance/draw time??

    i think i will make a str/Goughs bow build then for DLC.


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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by BackstabFisherman on Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:39 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/

    There is a link to the character planner.


    ***edit, I think the character planner is wrong about the Gough's Greatbow damage. No way it jumps from 400 to 627 by equipping gough's arrow.

    At the end of the day Gough's Greatbow is still stronger because it has better scaling.
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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by OrnsteinBro on Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:07 pm

    If you can spare the extra 3.0 pounds, go for Gough's Greatbow. It has better scaling and range. If you can't spare the extra weight, go for the DS bow.

    You should always use Gough's arrows where possible though, since they give better bonuses than dragonslayer arrows.


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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by nemesismonkey on Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:33 pm

    BackstabFisherman wrote:http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/

    There is a link to the character planner.


    ***edit, I think the character planner is wrong about the Gough's Greatbow damage. No way it jumps from 400 to 627 by equipping gough's arrow.

    At the end of the day Gough's Greatbow is still stronger because it has better scaling.
    I tested it myself in game. Its probably a bug but i posted it before. it adds the arrow damage to it a second time after scaling.
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    Re: Gough's bow question

    Post by exterminator2 on Mon May 27, 2013 6:44 pm

    Hello everyone,
    I realize that this is somewhat of a dated topic, but there is something I needed to know about this weapon before committing to an SL 120 build that uses it. According to the Mugenmonkey's AR calculator, this bow deals 258 damage at 47 strength and 20 dex without factoring in arrows. However, 27 strength and 40 dex yields 286 damage. This difference is odd considering the B strength over C dex scaling of this weapon.
    When I put these stats into the actual Mugenmonkey character planner with Gough's arrows, 47 strength with 20 dex deals 471 damage while 27 strength and 40 dex deals 523 damage. From reading the posts before this one, it would seem that Mugenmonkey has been wrong before (ex. factoring in arrow damage twice). Even more odd is that a 47/20 composite bow with large arrows deals 385 damage while a 27/40 deals 438, even though it scales both dex and strength at C (via Mugenmonkey character planner).
    Do bows have an innately higher Dex scaling that isn't shown, or is the Mugenmonkey planner just completely wrong?

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