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    Post by goober0331 Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:04 am

    So in making a build around the murakumo I encountered a speedbump.

    Now I realize that most ( or all ) of the greatswords are going to swing slower post console DLC, but I still want to make a SL 99 build with this weapon just for kicks.

    I am originally going to buff it with CMW using either the Tin Crystilization Catalyst or Logans with 32 Int. My dex would be at 13 and str at 28, the base levels to 1h the weapon. I believe with the buff and +15 it should be doing around 700 damage.

    Now I can either go the buff route or instead of using points for Int I can bring dex up to 40 ( and arranging a few other categories ) and have the weapon do 552 damage, all physical.

    Armor and such aside I was wondering what the community thought would be a better route, going all physical or split the increased damage with the buff.

    I've already dedicated points in int (its around 24 right now), but I've only invested about 15-20 hours in the character, so I can easily start again.

    In case anyone was wondering, I would be using havels/wolf ring, using an assortment of Wanders Chest/Dark Gloves, Boots etc etc. Any combo that puts me below 25% to get fast roll, and I would also be in the ballpark of 45-60 poise if my memory is right. Also I would be using bloodshield for increased bleed resistance, since the community loves them katanas.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:10 am

    Wait, you're going to make a mura 99 and buff it? Your vit and end will be low. You will likely be at base stats (or close to them) all to buff. IMO, don't buff, push your dex to 40 and you'll be better off.
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    Post by Jansports Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:13 am

    28/40 Quality is definately the way to go. Buffs are temporary and can be kited/turtled, dex is forever. Rather than takin gan attunment slot for a buff you can instead use GC or what have you if you want a couple spells.

    And 28/40 is great stats for the composite bow, so you aren't without weapon swap options.

    I find quality to simply be so much more versatile than the amalgam that is trying to buff a weapon like the mura and stay at sl99
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    Post by RANT Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:21 am

    this is my warrior build http://tinyurl.com/cnrbupp i always go wolf wing to get at least 53 poise, i switched the rings to be able to fast roll with the mura.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:34 am

    There is no way you can make a mura build AND buff it and stay at SL 99. Not without severe sacrifices.
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    Post by DamageCK Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:42 am

    Yeah, Reim is right. In terms of hp and even your stamina pool, the build is paperthin if you opt for a buff.
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    Post by goober0331 Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:56 am

    Vit and End are only at 39 a piece, so their not terribly low by any means since I'm only raising Int to 32, letting me use CMW, and then picking between Logans or TCC.
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    Post by DamageCK Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:59 am

    And then just base stat requirements to weild it?
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    Post by goober0331 Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:04 am

    Yep. Currently doing 352 damage at +15 with base stats, 550 after buff. Using Oolacile Ivory at 22 Int with Great Magic Weapon
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:20 am

    I say, ditch the buff and pump dex. Too many sacrifices for only a modest increase in AR. My +15 Mura with 40 dex does 350-600 damage (actual damage) unbuffed.
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    Post by DamageCK Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:22 am

    A modest and TEMPORARY increase in damage. Crank the dex.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:16 am

    Unless you want to cannon. A cannon is always difficult but its always dangerous.

    http://tinyurl.com/cyh6ey6 invade below 20% hp and stick to dragon form for the roar buff if you're lucky. Can swap colathaty for hornets.
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    Post by WyrmHero Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:49 am

    He can also menu swap to elemental mura if buff runs out, or MLGS. I have various builds that use weapons with base stats + buff and are pretty powerful. Either route will be ok, choose the one that it's fun to you.
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    Post by DamageCK Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:15 am

    Yeah, but do they have 30 faith and canvas talisman, or are we talking 50 faith/DM talismam/DMB+3? 'Cause the latter can probably stack up to a lot of weapons on magic damage alone.
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    Post by WyrmHero Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:22 am

    50 Faith and 45 Int respectively. That's why I suggested going elemental, and 32 Int TCC CMW is pretty strong.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:23 am

    I thought elementals were going to be nerfed?
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:19 pm

    they are reim.
    use rant's build.
    you can play around with the helmet if you want to patch other resistances too, and you can get 40 poise with the wolf ring if you want to swap stuff out for the armor.

    like this.
    http://tinyurl.com/8uh7llh

    you can still keep the shield and grab a lighter helmet tho.

    like that.
    http://tinyurl.com/9prqwgz

    and the other variations for different defenses.. im not gonna post everything tho im kind of lazy atm..

    edit: uhhhg.. forgot to swap the short bow for comp. lol whatever. you can do that if you decide to use any of this.
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    Post by goober0331 Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:58 pm

    I think what I'll do is just convert my SL 136 into a 149 build. Its currently designed for WP use ( 40 dex faith and 20 str) in order to buff, but I'll just add 8 to str and 5 in end to try and offset the weight of the mura.
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:00 pm

    1-50 51-100 101-200.
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    Post by goober0331 Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:21 pm

    I've heard differently in regards to the lvl restrictions in the arena. 100-149 would be one of the divisions in pvp
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    Post by DamageCK Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:26 pm

    I heard 1-49/50-99/100-149.
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    Post by lextune Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:33 pm

    We definitely need someone with the PTDE to confirm the arena levels.....like right away.
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    Post by lextune Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:59 am

    Slightly shocked that this crucial detail has yet to be shared. sad
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    Post by Wisp Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:40 am

    1-50, 51-100, 101-200. 99% percent sure

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