Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

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    Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Rifter7 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:15 pm

    i think cloranthy wins hands down.. but i wanna know the forums opinion.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by dancash1808 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:18 pm

    I agree. if your running rapier and shield as your main tactic poise will be irrelevant. that said I will probably be Backstabbing cause there are not all that many counters xD


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Rifter7 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:25 pm

    dead angling will annihilate rapiers... thats their counter, and it's why i thought to bring up the poise vs stam..

    i mean u still have the strafing dash r1's, but man you're gonna get caught doing that sooner or later. idk.

    but its swappable i guess so..


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:19 pm

    are you counter/ parrying? or bsing cause with more poise you can just poise-stab people despite getting hit.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Rifter7 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:06 pm

    i'll go for consistency over risky plays when im playing seriously.

    when i think about it, with the new deflection mechanic i kind of think cloranthy ring is worthless. i'll just bounce pretty much everything- tanking hits is no longer useful.

    and no i never parry unless the guys choreographing it in a bloody dance, or it's the next hit on my shield. i'll swap to a claymore or something to kick before i parry. it's just way more consistent.

    screw it, wolf ring ftw.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by lordgodofhell on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:39 pm

    I voted wolf ring. Eat grass it replaces clo ring, as well as gc shield and child mask do.


    with the dwgr nerf coming along, poise will be hard to come by without mid rolling, wolf ring+ catarina hands or legs gives 53 big grin

    I would only use clo ring on a stamina penalty mid roll heavy armor build, and that is if I wasn't grassing but instead using some sort of other body buff i.e. gmb etc.

    just my opinion here


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by RANT on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:41 pm

    you mean no poise? cause wolf would wins every time and wait till you run into someone with kirks armor.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:44 pm

    I'd go Cloranthny, all you gotta do is use I-frames.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:08 am

    Neither, go with the Leo Ring.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:22 am

    RantFromRant wrote:you mean no poise? cause wolf would wins every time and wait till you run into someone with kirks armor.

    no i mean tanking consecutive hits with the shield.

    yeah i didnt make that too clear.. my b.


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by RANT on Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:30 am

    Rifter7 wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:you mean no poise? cause wolf would wins every time and wait till you run into someone with kirks armor.

    no i mean tanking consecutive hits with the shield.

    yeah i didnt make that too clear.. my b.

    tanking? cloranthy, specially if you have havel's or artoria's(which i think kinda sucks tbh)


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:46 am

    yeah but with the deflections working now you won't have to tank consecutive hits like before. it'll just be 1 hit then a weapon bounce.

    idk i don't think the cloranthy is worth it if that's in place..


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Spurgun on Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:59 am

    How much poise do you have to begin with?

    I say wolfs ring and grass.
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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by DarkW17 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:49 pm

    I have to agree with Spur I'd go wolf and eat grass....the value of 53+ poise can't be over looked for any play style!

    There will be deflection added to the dlc? Hmmmmm that sure changes a lot wow...so how many people are going to get stuck in a deflection animation and get BS'd? I can just see it now lol


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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Spurgun on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:53 pm

    There isn't any deflection in the DLC/patch. That was a misunderstanding that happened when someone used the DSS without enough dex/faith.
    The stamina used when attacking while blocking is increased though.
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    Re: Cloranthy vs Wolf for rapiers+shield

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:58 pm

    arggh are u kidding. i was excited about those spear deflection animations.

    so basically you're telling me that stacking stamina regen is even more important for tanking hits with a shield.. pfft.


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