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    Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:43 pm

    I hate doing this but I'm looking for input. Getting a jump on the patch. Any suggestions? The zweih is an option to save weight but that requires 40 dex to be worth it.

    If the elemental zweihander survives the patch I may use it instead to save end and get the better moveset. http://tinyurl.com/8egqkzj

    I know a dex build would probably be better, but mine don't need much work to get through the changes.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:46 pm

    Looks good. You could even buff that DGM with some Gold Pine Resin or any of that stuff for a little more potency.

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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:50 pm

    Also, anyone have numbers on 700 AR? I haven't used a weapon that breaks 650 in a long time, pvping at 80 makes me stop at 27 str and lazyness keeps me regular a lot of the time.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:52 am

    Crystal DGM is the closest I've seen without splitting damage. At 40str the AR is 688, according to MM. Not sure if that is for 1H or 2H. Some clarification on that would be nice. In order to hit a flat 700 in MM, I had to crank str to 52. Assuming that applies to 1H, you could probably get by with low to mid 40's to hit 700AR while two-handing.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:53 am

    Never mind. Crystal DGA at 46str hits 705.

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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by RANT on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:04 am

    might as well show you mine, here it is http://tinyurl.com/cz5nv5r


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by RANT on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:05 am

    and a parry against an opponent wearing cloth can get up to 1400 damage no buff or anything, just plain DGM crystal +5.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:07 am

    What the eff? I just ran the same setup with the crystal DGM in MM and got lower AR numbers with higher strength. Oh, no. Am I..... retarded?


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:09 am

    Jesus christ. "2 Hand weps" checkbox. I am retarded.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:43 am

    It has low HP Forum, I would go FAP ring, med roll and more poise.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:07 am

    Lol, @ Damage. I was asking about damage at 700 ar. Stopping at 27 and crystal +4 like I usually do leaves me at 646 or 660 or something like that.

    I was wondering if the few extra str points to hit 700 are justified, because its a big deal to break 400, 500 or 600 and I didn't know if the same damage jump applied to 700.

    @rant The direct comparison was helpful, I think I improved on both, if only slightly. http://tinyurl.com/cm2bmkx

    How about that?

    @wyrm, I know and it sucks but I just can't do anything about a spear while mid rolling with the dgm, and this way I can menu swap into the large club when I need to turtle.

    I could use a spear as backup I suppose, then mid rolling wouldn't be a huge deal, but I really try to avoid spears, they're so easy to use that they make me sloppy if I use them much.

    http://tinyurl.com/cm2bmkx that would be the mid roll version


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:16 am

    Menu swap a Pike, turtle.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:29 am

    Just realised I posted the same link twice http://tinyurl.com/cv3vspn is the mid roll version. If I'm mid rolling with a spear I may as well just make a dex build though and buff it, which kind of defeats the purpose.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:48 am

    Nope because you're going to menu swap an elemental Pike and turtle them to death.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3743429987951763


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by Forum Pirate on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:08 am

    If I'm turtling with a spear though, why am I not just turtling?

    Its also supposed to survive the nerfs, and elemental weapons are taking a hit, as are spears. 2 nerfs at once isn't a good thing for something the build will rely on. hence the normal rolls. otherwise I'd just use the beiber ring and render the entire spear thing mostly moot.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:13 am

    Well compare the elemental Pike's AR vs the DS and choose the best spear.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:42 am

    By the way, med roll pivot backstabbing and poise backstabbing is fing DIFFICULT. I'm trying my tank builds at the no DWGR FC and fack... Even counter BS seems difficult, all because of the movement speed. VS experienced guys of course.


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:13 am

    Is the group PvPing right now, Wyrm?


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:23 am

    We stopped about an hour ago, I invited you but you never came. :/


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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:31 am

    My bad, man. I've been farting around on Mugen. Came up with the first draft of a pure pyro build that I think could do really well. I'll sit on it a while and see how I feel about it.

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    Re: Build thread *spoilers*

    Post by RANT on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:27 am

    @forum im not a fan of PW specially with low vit and a big weapon, people will just do nothing but dodge and wait for you to die. i also feel that i need a bow or xbow for that killing blow that its annoying to get with a slow weapon since everyone starts turtling when they know theyre gonna die and the xbow is perfect for that, all you gotta do is kick and then shoot.


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