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    Post by Derpwraith Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:13 pm

    Ultra Greatswords are so pathetic, the only people who use them are BS fishers. Not to mention that its always lightning. (which is incredibly overused in PvP anyway.)
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:15 pm

    I really wish i had high speed, I'd make you eat those words. Just because some people suck with them doesn't mean they or their users suck.

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    Post by Derpwraith Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:18 pm

    If ultra greatswords swung as fast as they did in Demon's Souls.. <3
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:25 pm

    They don't need to. Its all in the user. They should get a buff I'll admit, but they're far from pathetic.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:26 pm

    That was too OP. I love fighting with the Zweih and the DGM. But most guys who play with them fish for backstabs because UGS attacks are easily parried, roll backstabbed and even poise backstabbed.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:04 am

    Lay off the generalizations. Not everyone who used UGSs are BS fishers.
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    Post by goober0331 Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:06 am

    I've encountered a lot of players bs fishing with UGS, but I seem to die more from getting stunlocked by them.

    And anyone weapon can be deadly in this game if used properly. I'm sure a good UGS user would be pretty unpredictable in their attacks and make use of their weapons range, etc etc.
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    Post by Juutas Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:18 am

    UGS should have dmg buff or that mysterious hyper armor.
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    Post by RANT Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:27 am

    ok, a lot of people that use str weapons do nothing but fish for a bs but its only cause they dont know how to use them and want a cheap win, let me guess, bkga? zwei? just cause theres some(a lot) rotten apples in the str build category doesnt mean we all do nothing but fish for a bs. theres a couople of use like forum and wyrm that know how to use str weapons and we would be more than happy to how you how to properly use them if you wanna set up some duels.
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    Post by Gaxe Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:31 am

    I happen to be pretty dang good with the Dragon Greatsword without BSing thank you very much <.<
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    Post by Ghadis_God Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:00 am

    I'm pretty competent with the DGM if I do say so myself, UGS have unique advantages and disadvantages like any other weapon. They're both a crutch for noobs and one of the hardest weapon classes to use properly. Just don't knock it till you've tried it, and don't hate the weapon, hate the user.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:34 am

    Im so glad that ive been working on BS counters. Thank Peeve that put them up on youtube.

    Now when ever a BS fisher tries to get me I just widen my arc, wait half a second, then hit parry.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:35 am

    That sounds cool. Can you link the vid that shows that?
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:41 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXAbwAK0cJ8
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:56 am

    Thanks Viral.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:01 am

    I tried it out on Warwolf today and its hard to parry curved greatswords..... what with the swing delay and all.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:41 pm

    So like a counter bs, but just strafe a bit farther and parry? That doesn't look too ridiculously difficult to pull off.
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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:49 pm

    I like the Greatswords r2 :o
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    Post by StockpileThomas Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:57 pm

    I'm super pathetic then, I guess. The Zweihander was my favorite weapon when the game launched and still is. At 40 str and 40 dex it's a beast.

    But people who backstab with ultra great swords and hammers are annoying, for sure.

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