[Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

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    [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Seignar on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:59 pm

    "Ganker" because I look like a ganker, but I'm just trying to make the most of it...
    Behold!
    ...And no, Backstabs have not been a problem for me. Only once against a sly player...

    Alternative name for this build: "Master of Weapons"
    No, I habe to use the Uchi because the Washing Pole hits slower.

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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Myztyrio on Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:11 pm

    Um what?


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by cloudyeki on Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:13 pm

    Not really a 'ganker' less you have a mask ya know >_>


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:24 pm

    I highly suggest you go medium roll. Fat roll is useless for PvP in my opinion.

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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Myztyrio on Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:53 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:I highly suggest you go medium roll. Fat roll is useless for PvP in my opinion.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3250390711478888

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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Seignar on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:02 pm

    Um what?
    This build utilizes the most common equipment for gankers, making it look like I'm a ganker. This is why I used "Ganker" because of the similarities. In truth, of course, ganker is a term for the user not the build.
    Not really a 'ganker' less you have a mask ya know >_>
    I've seen gankers who don't use the masks and just stack defense and poise for the poise BS. Personally, due to the "thing" happening them in the coming patch, I won't use them. Besides, they look ugly. Oh, and you forgot DWGR. That should have been the main concern.

    Wyrm@: Actually, I did a lot of matches under fat roll and it isn't useless in the most important situations. It can dodge Homing Soulmasses and CSS IF you know your timing. The shield selection is also key; Crest shield VS magic, Black Knight Shield VS pyromancy. Besides, if you know how to play aggressively and parry, the only person who is going to dodge is your opponent.

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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:34 pm

    Well if you gonna fat roll, consider +106 poise then. You can tank 2 hits of claymore and 3 hits of a spear.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:17 am

    this build would die in fire if my new kat/pyro build found it.

    oh no it wouldnt it has a bk shield.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:24 am

    Yeah you just try to dodge a tempest. I wouldn't even have to dodge, just start a cast and watch you die trying to block it so it does counter damage when it breaks your guard.

    Never mind that anyone with a demon spear will laugh at you.

    I'd go midroll and menu swap to your spare gear.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:26 am

    i kind of like the idea of these builds tho.

    i think im going to make one-- not a fat roller, but a med roller for those ffa's.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:25 pm

    I've used a fat roll extensively, and although it is far from being strong, I have found that using some sort of ranged weapon is necessary; I go with Poison Knives, Dung Pie, and Heavy Crossbow, with a Greatsword (of the Ultra variety) for up close. WIthout a ranged weapon, you have no option to push the fight. A heavy crossbow can cancel a fast rolling caster with little poise.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by callipygias on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:36 pm

    Props to you PVPing a fat roll. Must take a lot of practice.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Seignar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:24 pm

    Yeah you just try to dodge a tempest. I wouldn't even have to dodge,
    just start a cast and watch you die trying to block it so it does
    counter damage when it breaks your guard.

    Never mind that anyone with a demon spear will laugh at you.

    I'd go midroll and menu swap to your spare gear.
    Tempest? Walk backwards with shield raised or BKGA their face if they do it too close. Demon Spear? THAT is a threat

    I've used a fat roll extensively, and although it is far from being
    strong, I have found that using some sort of ranged weapon is necessary;
    I go with Poison Knives, Dung Pie, and Heavy Crossbow, with a
    Greatsword (of the Ultra variety) for up close. WIthout a ranged
    weapon, you have no option to push the fight. A heavy crossbow can
    cancel a fast rolling caster with little poise.
    The good thing about Knives and Pie is that anyone can use them. As much as I would like a ranged weapon, I feel that having a speed and a power weapon can be very helpful up-close, where most of the combat will take place.

    Props to you PVPing a fat roll. Must take a lot of practice.
    Lots of adapting. You can't rely on rolling anymore and instead have to focus a lot on positioning, stamina management and you have to learn how to deal with many things dodging usually solved; means you need to learn to know a LOT of alternative ways to deal with stuff.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by IV_Mark_VI on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:33 pm

    Your call on not having a ranged weapon. But ranged chip damage will eat away at you. Depends on how patient they are; if they are, there's not a lot you can do about it.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Seignar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:48 pm

    The new and improved "Ganker"*
    Now comes with deadly DSS

    *: And by improvement means just 1 weapon change... but face it, that DSS is practically full-scaled and deals a lethal punch...or stab.

    Also, with DSS; Dash + Guard&Spear is a great pressuring tool for bow users.

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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:21 pm

    I've cooked a lot of people who tried both of those things to stop a tempest, doesn't seem like a good idea. poise is easy to come by and I rarely have getting people stuck in corners with a twmpest cast.

    It might just be my experience, but I can't see someone escaping a fire tempest with a fat roll unless the caster is really bad with it.

    If you can do it, more power to you I guess.


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    Re: [Sl 100] Honorable "Ganker"

    Post by Seignar on Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:43 pm

    I too have used the FT and have cooked many opponents. The key to dodging with Fat Roll is simply to unlock a dash the other way. Unless you're really close, then you BS. There are certain elements of luck involved of course, like where the pillar spawns.


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