To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

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    To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Lord of Ash on Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:46 am

    I am the Dark Lord of Ash, I've never lit the flame I say to hell with the Gods its man's time to rule.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:16 am

    Someone needs to maintain the balance of the world. If it stays in the Age of Fire we know what is will happen to the world.

    If you become a Dark lord then who knows what will go down!


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Lord of Ash on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:43 am

    When you light the flame you renew the flame thus ensuring that the gods continue ruling its why the want you to relight the flames not lighting it the flames fade and the gods rule no more the undead die off causethe bonfires will no longer be linked to the kiln flame


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:51 am

    Why shouldn't the gods rule? They are gods after all!


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Lord of Ash on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:52 am

    If they rule there will always be undead and they will all eventually go hollow


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by DoughGuy on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:56 am

    W can't be certain of that. The chosen undead's sacrifice may provide enough fuel to remove the curse and restore the balance, reigniting the age of fire.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:01 am

    DoughGuy wrote:W can't be certain of that. The chosen undead's sacrifice may provide enough fuel to remove the curse and restore the balance, reigniting the age of fire.
    I agreed. With the power of the flame guiding the world another being much like Gwyn or a successor of Gwyn would be able to ensure the balance is kept.

    Also while its true there will continue to be undead and people eventually going 'hollow' there is a large part of the world that is unafflicted by that.

    If you decided to become the Dark Lord and allow Kaathe's plant o unfold I assure you that Dark Wraiths would be running rampant stealing humanity left and right.... I dont want to lose my humanity to be honest.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Lord of Ash on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:03 am

    If gwns lord soul couldnt norish the flame what chance does your have you may have killed some demons but gwyn slew immortal dragons


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:08 am

    Its not that the Soul is nourishing the flame but if the Chosen Undead is the possessor of the Dark Soul then it is entirely plausible that that one soul is enough to satisfy the flames.

    In anycase the Age of Fire would only be extended for as long as that soul could fuel the fire.... it wouldnt have to be as long as Gwyn but even then that would leave enough time for another chosen undead to reach the flame and kindle it.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Lord of Ash on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:11 am

    tyhe chosen undead does not posses the dark soul his progenetor did the original undead not to be confused with nito the first Dead I believe that humanity is the bits and pieces of whats left of the dark soul


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by DoughGuy on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:16 am

    Humanity feeds the flame, not the soul. However as the chosen undead you are chosen. If you are powerful enough to become the dark lord you can surely keep the flame alive. Your soul may also be the dark soul. We never see it do we?


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:21 am

    No we don't but my theory on why the player character naturally accrues humanity from killing human like creatures in the various areas is that humanity either has some direct relation to or is a piece of the Dark Soul.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Dubscythe on Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:15 am

    Think of it this way, throughout the game you can kill a lot of the evil/corrupt "deities". Therefore, they wouldn't be in control in another Age of Fire.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by vatar5 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:18 am

    Also,you're the successor of Pigmy who is the one who got the Dark Soul soooo...I'm following my legacy plus I'm becoming a badass ruler who can decide the fate of the world.
    It's always better than dying and let fallen Gods rules the place.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Alara78 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:21 am

    I lit the flame once to get the trophy.....other than that, I always walk outside.
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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:23 am

    So.... you'd leave the fate of the world in the hands of a weak human? Interesting.... because in reality humans did such a great job of ruling themselves.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:45 am

    Hmm, yeah... Like I am going to become the dark lord

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    On a note I did a BK Cosplay and I chose to light the flame on there considering that as a disciple of gwyn you would surely rekindle it.


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Forgetfulness on Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:06 pm

    I usually Link the Fire.

    I used to look at the Gods in a negative light, but I can understand their reasons for doing what they do.

    Especially after playing the DLC.

    Also, seeing everything burn looks pretty and the music that plays as everything is burning is absolutely beautiful.
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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by samster628 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:41 pm

    LordofAsh wrote:I believe that humanity is the bits and pieces of whats left of the dark soul

    i beleve that too but if the darkwraiths are anything to go by and
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    then the dark will damn everyone. thats right isnt that confusing. the bad ending that you thought turned out to be the good ending was the bad ending after all !!!
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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by Lord of Ash on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:24 pm

    I know prett twisted right?


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    Re: To Light the Flame or not, That is The Question

    Post by necrotik on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:49 pm

    Dubscythe wrote:Think of it this way, throughout the game you can kill a lot of the evil/corrupt "deities". Therefore, they wouldn't be in control in another Age of Fire.

    /\ This is generally how i look at it.

    Although, as with everything regarding thematic decisions in DS, i don't believe either outcome is a "good" or "bad" outcome. It's all about the murky area inbetween and personal interpretation.

    One thing still has me wondering about the "Dark Lord" ending:
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