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    Post by Buggy Virus on Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:37 pm

    The player was the god of war?

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    Dumb Idea I know.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by Shkar on Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:45 pm

    Of course, I JUST post my theory in response to you in another thread and now I see this...

    1. The player is unique; can light bonfires, can restore humanity, can loop time (Groundhog Day style, you warp back to the start of the game), and learns the sunbro miracles when nobody is around to teach him.

    2. The God of War is always referred to as "he", yet male is the default gender people use when they don't care about political correctness.

    3. Kaathe says Gwyn has "blurred your past." Who ELSE do we know who has had their past erased?


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by XuitusTheGreat on Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:31 pm

    O.O.... I like this theory....


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:18 pm

    Shkar beat you tpo it sorry. But I guess he'll be happy someone backs his crazy *** theory for once silly


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by Shkar on Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:49 pm

    DoughGuy wrote:Shkar beat you tpo it sorry. But I guess he'll be happy someone backs his crazy *** theory for once silly

    Hey, my "crazy" ideas seem to be picking up a bit of steam, thank you very much!


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by XuitusTheGreat on Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:47 pm

    i love thinking of soilare as the god of war but this theory just kinda clicked for me o-o idk i like it


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by Derpwraith on Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:06 pm

    Shkar wrote:Kaathe says Gwyn has "blurred your past." Who ELSE do we know who has had their past erased?
    I heard this from one of EpicNameBro's Dark Souls Lore videos, every other darkwraith failed him, so its most likely that he told that story to each and every one of them. so its unlikely that the story that kaathe tells you is exactly true.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by Shkar on Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:23 pm

    InfiniteDoomsday wrote:
    Shkar wrote:Kaathe says Gwyn has "blurred your past." Who ELSE do we know who has had their past erased?
    I heard this from one of EpicNameBro's Dark Souls Lore videos, every other darkwraith failed him, so its most likely that he told that story to each and every one of them. so its unlikely that the story that kaathe tells you is exactly true.

    How on earth can you go around picking what you choose to believe from the same source like that? ALL of his claims are unsubstantiated and serpents are known for being liars who tempt humanity (in most mythologies, anyway). He's dubious enough that you practically need to take everything he says as false, or nothing as false, and everyone seems to think the dark lord ending is good.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by xMalevolence on Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:10 pm

    Shkar wrote:
    InfiniteDoomsday wrote:
    Shkar wrote:Kaathe says Gwyn has "blurred your past." Who ELSE do we know who has had their past erased?
    I heard this from one of EpicNameBro's Dark Souls Lore videos, every other darkwraith failed him, so its most likely that he told that story to each and every one of them. so its unlikely that the story that kaathe tells you is exactly true.

    How on earth can you go around picking what you choose to believe from the same source like that? ALL of his claims are unsubstantiated and serpents are known for being liars who tempt humanity (in most mythologies, anyway). He's dubious enough that you practically need to take everything he says as false, or nothing as false, and everyone seems to think the dark lord ending is good.

    ENB never said that to be 100% true, he also says he changes his opinion on most of the lore quite frequently. He's also stated that it's possible that with both endings, you are being manipulated.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by Shkar on Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:35 pm

    xMalevolence wrote:
    Shkar wrote:
    InfiniteDoomsday wrote:
    Shkar wrote:Kaathe says Gwyn has "blurred your past." Who ELSE do we know who has had their past erased?
    I heard this from one of EpicNameBro's Dark Souls Lore videos, every other darkwraith failed him, so its most likely that he told that story to each and every one of them. so its unlikely that the story that kaathe tells you is exactly true.

    How on earth can you go around picking what you choose to believe from the same source like that? ALL of his claims are unsubstantiated and serpents are known for being liars who tempt humanity (in most mythologies, anyway). He's dubious enough that you practically need to take everything he says as false, or nothing as false, and everyone seems to think the dark lord ending is good.

    ENB never said that to be 100% true, he also says he changes his opinion on most of the lore quite frequently. He's also stated that it's possible that with both endings, you are being manipulated.

    Well obviously you're being manipulated. Someone is influencing your actions either way, or heck, even if ignore both of them. It's not as if you can't be manipulated into doing something GOOD though.

    If you made some things hidden and only told important stuff in order to get, say, Shepherd from ME to save the universe, then are you an awful person, if they were the only one who could do it?


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by Buggy Virus on Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:44 pm

    Well due to the fact that the player is the pygmies descendant. . .


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by JohnnyHarpoon on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:24 pm

    I still think Solaire is the GoW because a) he says the Sun is like a father b) he gives you the White Soapstone (which proves he has the power to 'watch over' other warriors, and that you don't until you cross his path) and c) it makes sense that he has daddy issues, because Gwyn went and linked the flame before he was expunged as the GoW.

    It just makes too much sense that he misses his father and wishes to find him, but doesn't remember who his father specifically is or where he went, so the best he can do is relate sunlight and fathers on an unconscious level...and so he ends up seeking his own Sun.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:30 pm

    Where does he talk about missing his father?
    Also I have shown proof he is not the GoW in another thread you posted in. He doesn't exist in your world therefore he can;t be the GoW.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:55 pm

    Dough how do you know your world is the real world. You may simply be a spin off of Solaire, you could even be him but in a different time line.

    The developer stated that if you have Solaire help you fight Gwyn the he kindles the first flame thus would that not make him some figure of importance?


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:58 pm

    Your world is the real world. So is Solaire's. So is every chosen undead's. Solaire is a chosen undead, he links with the flame, he can;t be the GoW (unless Shkar is right and the player is the GoW). He exists in a separate world to you, his own world. The GoW exists in your world. Therefore they cannot be the same.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:03 pm

    Could he not then be the GoW of his world?


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:06 pm

    No, because the only difference between each world is who the chosen undead is. SO if he's not in your world he can't be it in his.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:09 pm

    But you said that each world is seperate.

    The developer confirms that Solaire is from another world. He says that he kindles his bonfire in his world. Is it not possible that Solaire is simply out of time. The time lines intersecting would explain his physical presence it your world. Thus if he were froma spearate world then he could be the GoW of his world.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:11 pm

    The only difference between each world is the chosen undead though. Thats the only one we see, so we can't assume anything else is different. When he appears physically in your world that is your 2 worlds intersecting allowing him to appear.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:14 pm

    You cant assume that the nature to time and the multiverse is how it is because each player character has to under go the same trials to reach the Kiln.

    Essentially every player is the same person from the same world. Only ever able to communicate by becoming a spirit and being active with one other persons consciousness.

    You have to assume that there are multiple varient timelines and realities present in the DKS world.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:16 pm

    I can't entirely, but based on the information we have its an accurate assumption to make.
    I;m not entirely sure what you are saying with the second bit (Im a bit tired)


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:19 pm

    LOL.

    All im saying is that each copy of dark souls purchased sets the players in the same time period but in different worlds. Now while the PLayer character cant change the game monumentally (as the game is essentially linear) you can assume that in all of the other worlds of the chosen undead, which could be infinte, the time lines and appearance of the world may be totally changed.

    Solaire is of a diffent world. So while the God of War may be some other being in your world you never come across in Solaires world it maybe that he is infact the lost God of War and somehow comes into contact with your world.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:23 pm

    Well even if that is true, it is something that does not concern us. Why? Because it means the GoW for our world is still unknown, as Solaire is not our GoW anyway. Wither way he isn't a GoW, or one we care about.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:25 pm

    Why wouldnt we care about a God of War isnt that one of the things we are looking for in the game. He fits the bill well.... think Tsubasa Chronicles multiverse style.


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    Re: What if. . .

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:29 pm

    But if he isnt our GoW then we still need to find ours. And if its different for each world knowing its Solaire in another doesn't help our search.


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