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    opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by solidor12 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:13 pm

    so im fairly new to dark souls (two playthroughs in total so far) and i'd like your opinions on my first pvp build

    give me the truth straight lol silly

    SL 85 Bandit

    Vit: 28
    Att: 8
    End: 34
    Str: 50
    Dex: 18
    Res: 11
    Int: 8
    Fai: 10

    R1: Black Knight Greataxe
    R2: Dark Hand
    L1: Crest Shield
    L2: Bare Fist

    Armor:
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    Paladin Armor
    Balder Gauntlets
    Xanthous Waistcloth

    Rings:
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    Ring of Favor and Protection

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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:24 pm

    First off, drop down to 40 Str. After 40, the diminishing returns are pitiful. You will gain next to no increase in AR, and that will be further decreased by your enemies's defenses. Use those 10 points to increase your Vit or End, Vitality being more important.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:26 pm

    BKG's are easy to parry imo. I recommend you try using Scythe Weapons. Their one-hand R2/RT attack uses an arc as well but its 270degrees. Compared to 180degrees BKG.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:29 pm

    However, BKGA can have awesome dead angles, which are not parryable.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:31 pm

    reim0027 wrote:However, BKGA can have awesome dead angles, which are not parryable.

    That is for the intermediate and Advanced section or PvP. The** majority in the XBL community are rather new and their philosophy** the quicker the better the stronger the better. So many new players prefer BKG because of its mediocre stat requirements and its speed for each consecutive attack.

    Trust me dead angling is great but I've fought many BKG that doesn't** even know what dead angling is.

    **= Grammar and spelling correction.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by RANT on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:32 pm

    its a str build isaac, the only one he can use is the halberd, he can also use the other halberds or scythes but would have to be elemental which are getting nerfed with the new patch. bring up your vit to 40 and going after 40 is a waste of points since you get really poopy scaling after. you dont need any magic either, the ony thing you need is a chaos comp bow on your left hand tto make up for your lack of magic.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by RANT on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:33 pm

    Ser Isaac wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:However, BKGA can have awesome dead angles, which are not parryable.

    That is for the intermediate and Advanced section or PvP. The** majority in the XBL community are rather new and their philosophy** the quicker the better the stronger the better. So many new players prefer BKG because of its mediocre stat requirements and its speed for each consecutive attack.

    Trust me dead angling is great but I've fought many BKG that doesn't** even know what dead angling is.

    **= Grammar and spelling correction.

    xbox player must really suck then, they game came out almost a year ago.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:35 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:its a str build isaac, the only one he can use is the halberd, he can also use the other halberds or scythes but would have to be elemental which are getting nerfed with the new patch. bring up your vit to 40 and going after 40 is a waste of points since you get really poopy scaling after. you dont need any magic either, the ony thing you need is a chaos comp bow on your left hand tto make up for your lack of magic.

    Understandable, But if you want him to reallocate his points for future builds why not Scythes? He can drawback lets say.. 15 points off strength and increase dex for about. Then switch out his str build into a hybrid build. The OP didn't state he was going for a str build. He's open for suggestions.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:36 pm

    poopy scaling, LOL

    As far as dead angling being more advanced, you are right. But, if Solidor can dead angle, then he will have an awesome weapon.

    Personally, since most people don't know how to fight with the BKGA (they go for the stunlock R1 spam), I get excited when they pull it out. It is only a matter of time before I'm pulling my mura out of their sternum.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:38 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
    Ser Isaac wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:However, BKGA can have awesome dead angles, which are not parryable.

    That is for the intermediate and Advanced section or PvP. The** majority in the XBL community are rather new and their philosophy** the quicker the better the stronger the better. So many new players prefer BKG because of its mediocre stat requirements and its speed for each consecutive attack.

    Trust me dead angling is great but I've fought many BKG that doesn't** even know what dead angling is.

    **= Grammar and spelling correction.

    xbox player must really suck then, they game came out almost a year ago.

    Yeah they do sadly. But I usually co op and help the new players. Well actually 3 days ago just made 3 friends and they were absolutely new. Taught them how to allocate points Showed them the minimum in Vit and End. Told them about Stamina consumption, poise, and I can't remember the last thing but I'll edit this sentence out when I do.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:40 pm

    reim0027 wrote:poopy scaling, LOL

    As far as dead angling being more advanced, you are right. But, if Solidor can dead angle, then he will have an awesome weapon.

    Personally, since most people don't know how to fight with the BKGA (they go for the stunlock R1 spam), I get excited when they pull it out. It is only a matter of time before I'm pulling my mura out of their sternum.

    Haha I fast roll to them and back away from them. Then on their third swing they have no more stamina and then I unleash hell xD.. Oh good times. Then I get hatemail for having immunity to dmg. Lol! The player obviously does not know while rolling you have a tiny bit immunity.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by RANT on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:42 pm

    that is....sad.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:44 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:that is....sad.

    About my immunity o_o? Or him complaining his lose?


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:45 pm

    Ser Isaac wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:that is....sad.

    About my immunity o_o? Or him complaining his lose?
    I'm sure he's talking about their complaining and lack of fundamental PvP knowledge.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by solidor12 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:46 pm

    Wow this is some good information, thanks my dudes

    I'm going to see how the bkga does against some players and see if I am capable of consistently doing the dead angle hit which I just read up on, should be simple enough hopefully

    btw i play on ps3 =D


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:49 pm

    reim0027 wrote:
    Ser Isaac wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:that is....sad.

    About my immunity o_o? Or him complaining his lose?
    I'm sure he's talking about their complaining and lack of fundamental PvP knowledge.

    Oh yeah for sure. Only bad thing I dislike XBL is our star reputation. If you play Dark Souls then you will madly lose 2-3 stars in a week. Gladly I have immunity from it because I challenge my accusations and I come out clean so the company gives me back my reputation status and 5 stars.

    I have a friend who is an expert PvPer always beats him, she doesn't abuse the game with glitches or exploits Just real PvP and she loses all her stars for that. Like right now she has 1/2 a star which TBH is dumb XBL should just get rid of the Rep thing.


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    Re: opinion on SL 85 bandit build

    Post by Ser Isaac on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:49 pm

    For dead angling it is way easier if you don't lock on. Trust me, you will land cleaner hits w/o it.


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