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    TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by Mourning Sun on Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:59 pm

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    TCC vs. Manus Catalyst. I see that the Manus Catalyst has 18 less magic adjust at 50 int. compared to TCC. Is there any reason at all to take the Manus Catalyst over TCC?

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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by Fotitudo on Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:04 pm

    iirc the ****-Catalyst also scales with str, so you have a "good" melee as a pure caster.
    But it weights 5.0 points, lower magic adj and also halves your spells. So its imo pretty useless ...
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by RANT on Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:16 pm

    its gonna be awesome with str/int builds. im gonna make a build around this and DGM. from what ive seen on streams its gonna kick ***.


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by Mourning Sun on Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:35 pm

    I mean it seems alright if you're going for a rather uncommon hybrid build, but I was mainly referring to general damage purposes. In that regard, it seems like a no sad
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:39 pm

    Whats the moveset like?


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by RANT on Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:43 pm

    its like a greataxe, damnit ice get your *** in the stream so you can show me the stone axe!!!


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:26 pm

    I was streaming, I'm surprised I can't see the video of it though. I would stream right freaking now if someone would duel me!


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by RANT on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:50 pm

    why not just go to the arena?


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:55 pm

    I don't like the design, I want to play classic one life to live in a more unique place to play, but I can't go on to NG+ and the Kiln is so dead, at least for me.


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by RANT on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:55 pm

    invade and hoep that someone gives you a proper fight.


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:57 pm

    I can't purchase Red Eye Orbs, and no one will summon me for dragonoid PvP OR co-op, damn it.


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by RANT on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:01 am

    that sucks, people should know that the glitches got patched by now(did they?) i never summon dragons since all this glitch bs started happening i just cant trust them. they used to have the best rep now they have the worse.


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:04 am

    Actually, I think its all the arena's fault, I want classic, but I don't think many people do. I'm getting online now, and I'll show you, but I doubt I will actually play. For anyone else, who wants a good duel, you can message me <3


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:04 am

    wait... manus' cat halves casts?


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by Montante on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:17 am

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:wait... manus' cat halves casts?

    It does. And, from what I've seen so far, it seems that the TCC will actually have a stronger manual attack as well. The Manus will get a boost from strength scaling, but the actual attack with the TCC I feel is more effective.
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:34 am

    nooooooo! fine then screw effectiveness i will make and int str build and use nothing but that catalyst and a shield. also whats its adjusdt at 50 int?


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by Fotitudo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:15 am

    Afaik about 18 points lower than tcc. And it weights a ton.
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:35 pm

    who cares? i will use it in place of a weapon thus i won't care about the weight!!!!


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by SnailsAndSlugs on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:49 pm

    IMO it's only viable at mid-int levels. At 25 int, enabling CMW use, the manus catalyst has higher maj adjust than any other usable catalyst at that level...197 maj adjust vs. 180 of the oolacile catalyst. Its weight is a major turnoff for me. No reason to use it over TCC at high int levels. I don't see seriously using the melee function of it much.
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:54 pm

    Always gotta add a new Cestus in all the DLC's happy


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by SnailsAndSlugs on Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:02 pm

    ICEFANG wrote:Always gotta add a new Cestus in all the DLC's happy

    ??? a new cestus? as in the fist weapon?
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by ICEFANG on Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:07 pm

    I'm joking, I mean add a new worthless weapon, perhap Greatsword of Artorias would have been better to say.


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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by RANT on Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:22 pm

    lol @ people complaining about the weight, the weapons i use weight 18 to 24, that thing seeems lighter than a feather to me.


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    Post by Fotitudo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:54 pm

    Haha Big Hat weights 3.0 and its a serious problem for me xD
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    Re: TCC vs. *spoiler*

    Post by Mourning Sun on Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:00 pm

    ICEFANG wrote:I'm joking, I mean add a new worthless weapon, perhap Greatsword of Artorias would have been better to say.

    Pffft, I use Greatsword of Artorias! Of course it's on my level 250 build so take that as you will.

    But really, it weighs too much to be versatile. You're essentially going to have to build your character around it if you want to get it's full potential.

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