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    weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:00 am

    Hello people
    I'm noob in DS world, and I need your help
    I prefer fast attack type weapon like katanas, straight swords and etc. What is better for pvp in dex|vit|end biuld:
    weapon with high phis damage but low scaling like Silver knight straight sword , or mb Chaos Blade
    orweapon with high scaling like Balder side sword or Uchigatana / Iaito?

    thx a lot
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:06 am

    i'm so confused.
    um.. you'd want to pick depending on your stats.


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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:07 am

    i'll just list everything in this post.. give me a second.

    okay when i say + i mean at that level and more is fine for things like cast speed or whatever.

    straight swords
    sunlight straight sword if 27 str/40+ dex
    balder side sword if 40+ dex

    curved swords
    falchion (it likes being 2 handed, 27str/) 40+ dex

    katanas
    iaito 40+ dex
    chaos blade 40+ dex
    washing pole 27 str/40+ dex

    rapiers
    rapier it'll notice str/40+ dex
    estoc it'll notice str/40+ dex
    ricard's rapier 40+dex

    pick the weapons that match your stats and prefered move set.

    usually you'll want to go for +15 normal weapons as they punch thru defenses the best.
    if you're stats don't allow them or you plan to do backstabs with them then use elemental.
    certain weapons are better for buffs than others, and it's up to you to decide what weapon you enjoy the most and are best with.


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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:17 am

    thx
    i will choose))
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Rifter7 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:21 am

    i personally use +15 iaito's, washing poles, falchions and +5 cblades if you're curious.

    i've got some builds littering the forums with those weapons as well. lmk if you're interested.
    i can update this post tommorow or you can search my posts, im going to sleep.


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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:33 am

    ok, thx, i try to search your posts on this forum with those builds)
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by RCPD_STARS on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:23 am

    +1 Baldur Side Sword

    But really, I would play around with as many weapons as you can and compare their R1, R1, sprinting attack, and 2H R1 and R2. Ultimately, any weapon you like can be built around. Im sure the people and resources on this forum could help you to make a build for a weapon you like the moveset for.


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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:25 am

    and what about Chaos blade and its selfdrain hp: is it deadly for my char in pvp?

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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Spurgun on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:28 am

    No. You wont even notice it.
    But if you see that you're down to your last vitality then you should probably switch weapons. Most of the time that doesn't happen though.


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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:35 am

    thx)
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Jansports on Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:14 am

    The Silver Knight Straight Sword, henceforth referred to as the SuperKoolSickSlicer is, unlike it's spear cousin, buffable and has a solid moveset. If only it were not for the BSS's trusting Strong attack, I lament and weep for the days of DeS when every straight sword had a thrusting strong, as the trusting strong in DaS is really really(really) good.
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:23 am

    what do you think about this pvp build?)
    http://tinyurl.com/8urzn5q


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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:12 am

    http://tinyurl.com/9qw2gx4
    Maybe i changed it too much?
    the steel protection ring is useless. And the DWGR will be nerfed in the patch, so i wouldn't use it. (Unless you're on PC, then it's already nerfed for you).
    Why 24 str? Especially if you're using the chaos blade, it doesn't scale with str at all. And the magic shield's duration is so short that it's not worth using. Will this be a coop toon or a PvP toon? If it's going to be a coop toon then you could add some faith and miracles, but even then, it's easier to heal with humanity, if you can put up with farming for it. I added some pyro and raised dex to 45 for maximum cast time reduction. I added the fap ring, it gives you more health/stamina/EL.


    Yeah, i definitly changed the build too much Look Skyward , sorry.
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:34 am

    24 str - it's my mistake, it need for other weapon then CB, you are right, i forget change this stat.
    But why you change armor? your build have less resists, less phis, mag and elemental defence, but more stamina and hp. Why? + 575 hp is more useful then 100+ defence in all parameters?
    p.s. i'm on PC))
    p.s.2 I'm creating build for solo pvp

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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:43 am

    At least in my experience, 500-600 hp is better than 100 defense.
    But it's not only the hp, it's the poise. 52 poise will get you stunned by a 2h GS, but 54 is the breakpoint for it.
    You shouldn't be tanking anything anyway, PvP is more about who can dodge the most. Especially with the CB, since it's a fast weapon.
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:54 am

    ok, i understand) thx
    mb you tell me about other caps, not only poise?)) ,b other stats need to be increased to specific value?

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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:00 am

    Not really. Only that after 300 defense the diminishing returns kick in. IE, getting 100 more def after 300 isn't as helpful as getting 100 def more def after 200.
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by Ne4et on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:11 am

    thank you)
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    Re: weapon for dex|vit|end build

    Post by omega Elf on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:24 am

    Washing Pole best weapon in the game currently and set to become even better
    with increased 2h speed, which I guess was introduced to keep it at the top
    against new weapons which will be introduced

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