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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:29 am

    Anything at all about him i just can't wait till the 26th for the DLC
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    Post by Knight Alundil Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:49 pm

    Hes a total goth.
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    Post by Shkar Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:00 pm

    Kiva the wanderer wrote:Anything at all about him i just can't wait till the 26th for the DLC
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    Let me put it this way:

    He is the Dumbledore to our Snape.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:21 pm

    He once taught Snarf how to filibuster!

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    Post by X-government-agent Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:55 pm

    he is a sir lol knight of gwyn and a walker of the abyss and a totally bad *** seemingly
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    Post by SEANB240 Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:21 pm

    He was a knight of Gwyn, along with Hawkeye Gough (archer), Dragonslayer Ornstein and Lord's Blade Ciaran (female assassin).

    He was a good friend of the Grey Wolf Sif and somewhat of Alvina, as well. His grave is at Darkroot Garden and under the protection of the Forest Covenant, though this might not be the actual location of his body. His ring is the Wolf Ring, which boosts poise.

    He served Gwyn loyally until he spent time in the Abyss, probably at Oolacile while it was still around. He had been sent (or on his own accord) hunted down the Darkwraiths, but at some point made a pact with the Abyss (very, very likely the primordial serpent Kaathe) and joined the Darkwraiths. This is why one version of his sword is Cursed.

    The DLC begins with you going back in time to Oolacile around when he had switched sides.
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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:55 am

    In the Gamescom trailer Dusk speaks of Artorias of the abyss "I would have perished if it not for the great knight artorias" she spoke of him in a respectful manner and when we see him he looks pretty beaten up and its confirmed his arm (can't remember which one) is damaged to the point where it doesn't work, so in speculation i think he tried to save oolacile but failed and was tainted and turned insane by the abyss (thats why he roars and howls in the boss fight).
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    Post by Juutas Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:09 am

    Kiva the wanderer wrote:In the Gamescom trailer Dusk speaks of Artorias of the abyss "I would have perished if it not for the great knight artorias" she spoke of him in a respectful manner and when we see him he looks pretty beaten up and its confirmed his arm (can't remember which one) is damaged to the point where it doesn't work, so in speculation i think he tried to save oolacile but failed and was tainted and turned insane by the abyss (thats why he roars and howls in the boss fight).

    Probably Artorias saved Dusk by blocking the attack of the "creature of the Abyss" thus losing his arm and shield in the process and eventually getting cursed by the abyss.
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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:30 am

    Juutas wrote:
    Kiva the wanderer wrote:In the Gamescom trailer Dusk speaks of Artorias of the abyss "I would have perished if it not for the great knight artorias" she spoke of him in a respectful manner and when we see him he looks pretty beaten up and its confirmed his arm (can't remember which one) is damaged to the point where it doesn't work, so in speculation i think he tried to save oolacile but failed and was tainted and turned insane by the abyss (thats why he roars and howls in the boss fight).

    Probably Artorias saved Dusk by blocking the attack of the "creature of the Abyss" thus losing his arm and shield in the process and eventually getting cursed by the abyss.

    We have to finish what Arty started maybe this will explain why he made the covenant with Kaathe.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:25 am

    Kiva the wanderer wrote:
    Juutas wrote:
    Kiva the wanderer wrote:In the Gamescom trailer Dusk speaks of Artorias of the abyss "I would have perished if it not for the great knight artorias" she spoke of him in a respectful manner and when we see him he looks pretty beaten up and its confirmed his arm (can't remember which one) is damaged to the point where it doesn't work, so in speculation i think he tried to save oolacile but failed and was tainted and turned insane by the abyss (thats why he roars and howls in the boss fight).

    Probably Artorias saved Dusk by blocking the attack of the "creature of the Abyss" thus losing his arm and shield in the process and eventually getting cursed by the abyss.


    That would be a nice story feature but Im not sure thats the whole truth. I think From will leave that up to us to decide.... however Im wondering if Artorias Armour will have an affect on the players left arm.
    We have to finish what Arty started maybe this will explain why he made the covenant with Kaathe.
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    Post by Juutas Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:48 am

    Yeah, I don't think we are going to get too much easy answers from Fromsoft and I kinda like it happy figuring out the mysteries of Dark Souls is lots of fun.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:52 am

    Oh god yes. Im puzzling out the relation between the Oolacile Township and perhaps New Londo.

    In the trailer the PC is heading down. What is down. New Londo, Catacombs, ToTG, Izalith?

    And doesnt the trailer say Oolacile was swallowed by the Abyss? Well what if New Londo was built on top of it? That would explain the Abyss being below New Londo. Why and how was it built.

    To create a seal? What Kind of seal. Using Human/ Humanity to Seal the Abyss. Perhaps thats why humanity is tied to the Dark?

    Why flood New Londo? Second Seal? Destroy Humanity? Stop it becoming the agents of Dark?

    All these mysteries and more!
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:55 am

    Oolacile could be that second city Shkar is always on about. Also notice how in the pics there are no shining flowers (that Ive seen). Guess we were right about their magic infusing the land cheers
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:01 am

    Yup im speculating on it in a dif thread.

    Also that is a great point because in one scene from the trailer the player is crossing a massive chasm over and narrow bridge. That could very well be the same gorge.

    Then what would the significance of two opposing towns/ centres of humaity? How would they interact? How would One fall and not the other? Is Newlondo only just falling to the Abyss now in Dark Souls as we know it?

    https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t10301-oolacile-and-the-dlc to puzzle the secrets of oolacile out!
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    Post by Juutas Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:12 am

    Call me crazy, but I think water as an element has something to do with stopping the abyss.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:06 am

    You're not crazy. I've brought that up before Juutas. Water is a common method of sealing evil in mythology.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:24 pm

    Would explain why flooding new londo worked and water didnt appear in the abyss.

    Could even explain why Dusk appears in a golem in water?
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:28 pm

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:
    Could even explain why Dusk appears in a golem in water?
    Seath put her in it after he captured her.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:54 pm

    Wait we have no actual evidence that seath did capture her thats pure speculation!
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:56 pm

    Ac5tual the entire forest is linked to seath through his butterfly, his golem, the enchanted ember and the hydra. Darkroot currently appears to be a hiding place for seath's treasures.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:10 pm

    Perhasps but I like to think the enchanted ember is more related to oolacile than say seath
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:19 pm

    He hs an enchanted falchion in his archives. Links him to the ember. And it is related to oolacile, but it is also related to Seath. Its not mutually exclusive.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:43 pm

    Nor is it inclusive.
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    Post by samster628 Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:56 am

    i have to say dusk being captured by seath is extreamly likly. seligenade (or whatever her name is) is capturd in exactly the same way.

    *SPOILERS*

    dont forget, to enter the dlc do go through a portal in time - NOT in space. this confirms the darkroot garden is in fact oolicile. this explains the precence of seaths minions - searching for the magic of oolicile. in this time travelling way the grave of artorias where sif is encounteres could be Arts actual grave, the body behind it could be cicerians and the ruins cold be that of oolicile. IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:39 am

    Could some one link me to the section of Acidics lore thread where you guys discuss the Lore about Darkroot and Oolacile.

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