Never affected me.
If I am using the DWGR, I am wearing Gold Hemmed Skirt with Dusk Crown featuring CMW and Uchi+15.
If I am not using the DWGR, I am wearing Full Havels using 48 Great Combustions.
So in the end. I win.
WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:The ironic thing?
Using the DWGR will soon be the sign of a cool hipster.
Forum Pirate wrote:People will still be able to fast roll at 76 poise and 300+ defense across the board with 40 end, assuming they have a claymore or lighter. If they use a rapier or gouge a little(5, maybe 10 points), they'll be able to break the 350 defense mark. Thats sound suspiciously like a fastrolling tank to me.
vageta31 wrote:DWGR isn't useless, it's just not a "no brainer" anymore. It doesn't increase your burden anymore, but it still offers a significant advantage to a fast roll. iFrames and recovery. Personally I just use Havel's ring as a permanent equip, then choose my 2nd ring depending on the situation. Wolf for poise, DWGR for better evasion, hornet for taking out tougher enemies, etc..
For those unaware of the true power of the DWGR, here are some numbers.
Fast Roll: 0 Encumbrance
iFrames = 13
Full animation = 21
Fast Roll: 25% Encumbrance
iFrames = 13
Full animation = 24
DWGR Flip: 0 Encumbrance
iFrames = 15
Full Animation = 19
DWGR Flip: 25% Encumbrance
iFrames = 15
Full Animation = 22
Since most of us aren't going to be completely weightless, the 25% encumbrance number is more likely. Only 7 of the DWGR animation frames are not invincible, and it instantly recovers allowing you to start it up again. Not to mention it travels much farther which is a huge advantage for dodging attacks with a large hit box.
It's no longer a crutch to use heavy armor, but it's far from useless. Just wait till you hit the new content and see how many of the boss attacks are either AOE on strike or have abnormally large hit boxes and realize just how important iFrames and roll distance is.
Forum Pirate wrote:Its still fastrolling at 76 poise. If its ok for everyone I don't have a problem, but when the builds that least need poise and defense because the move so fast can do it, and the builds that need poise and defense the most because they're slow can't, I have a problem.
Its like the opposite of how it should be. Fast rolling AND poise should't be available to anyone if its not avalable to everyone. Essentially, if the beiber ring is being nerfed, the wolf ring should have been as well, as they allow the same crap, but now only dex builds get to do it because str weapons are heavy.
It might limit weapon choices, but what it limits them to is most every dex weapon.
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