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    Ciaran's intentions *Possible Spoilers*

    Post by menzinho on Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:48 pm

    Ok, so we all know that, in the DLC after you gut the Abysswalker, you get his soul, but his friend, Lord Blade Ciaran come to you and asks for his soul in exchange for her blade... why?

    Well maybe because she wanted to... well i don't know, revive him? i mean think about it, you can revive the Firekeeper in Firelink by bringing her soul back to her body, what stops other from doing the same, specially someone so powerful as one of the four knights.

    I say Ciaran tried to revive Artorias, but was stopped... by Sif, therefore her state of deadness behind his grave (i really think that is her) but that still lingers the question, why Sif?

    maybe because his master, in his last moments of sanity, ordered him not to allow such to happen? that is why he guards the tomb, to prevent anyone from traversing the abyss and ending up like Artorias AAAAAND, to prevent anyone from bringing the corrupted Abysswalker back? we'll see soon enough XD


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:55 pm

    Oh god why did I click on this link!

    I SAW HER NAME AND COULDNT RESIST!

    Also if nobody has any issue with it ill link the fight between her and peeve....

    it reassures me she isnt a push over!

    WARNING ALERT ALERT THERE ARE VISUAL SPOILERS HERE!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NUHBZIi-3o


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    Post by menzinho on Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:16 pm

    dude... she fights like a real player... with lyoids talismans and all... i really hope we don't have to kill her for the armor... would be a shameful waste of awesomeness


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:02 am

    Im Pretty Sure you do have to kill her


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    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:28 am

    She isnt that good. peeve was just silly trying to parry her winking


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:45 am

    dancash1808 wrote:She isnt that good. peeve was just silly trying to parry her winking

    You.... ser we must duel for her honour!


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    Re: Ciaran's intentions *Possible Spoilers*

    Post by ModernAnroid on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:53 am

    Alright, this theory may fit together well, but what happened to Artorias's soul then? If the player chose to craft it into a weapon then the soul is forever lost in time. But if you give it to her where does it disappear to then? Also, does Ciaran use the ring you find behind the tombstone? If she does, it gives your theory massive support.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:08 am

    Can I take some of these theories back to the Ciaran character thread?


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    Post by CandleMax on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:31 am

    ModernAnroid wrote:Alright, this theory may fit together well, but what happened to Artorias's soul then? If the player chose to craft it into a weapon then the soul is forever lost in time. But if you give it to her where does it disappear to then? Also, does Ciaran use the ring you find behind the tombstone? If she does, it gives your theory massive support.
    "One of the special rings granted to the four knights of Gwyn. The Hornet Ring
    Belonged to the Lord's Blade Ciaran. By boosting critical attacks, its wearer can
    annihilate foes, as Ciaran's dagger laid waste to Lord Gwyn's enemies."
    That's the description for the hornet ring (the ring behind the tombstone).
    Personally, I think that if you give Artorias' soul to Ciaran, she keeps it as a reminder of him.


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:41 am

    But are we certain that Ciaran and Artorias had some sort of relationship? Perhaps hero worship is more likely than love in Dark Souls..... a sort of obsession like most other characters


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    Post by menzinho on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:35 am

    Did you notice what she mumbles as she dies? "My dear Artorias..." POOOUFFF... no one says that except if you have feelings for said person (or if Artorias was in the Friendzone) feel free to take the theories back to wherever you want, but i say she went to bring Artorias back, like we did to Anastacia...


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    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:48 am

    aint his soul a little.... erm corrupted by that point? she seemed quite glad that he had been released from what he was. if she used his icky soul would it not just be back to square one? (also firekeeper had a body left behind and firekeepers are inherently a very different species than normal humans)

    Maybe she just didnt want some heartless person forcing his essence into a blade and leaving him trapped like that (boss weapons are pretty horrific)
    or absorbing his essence. maybe there is some way to "release" souls without eating them or turning them into pointy things...


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    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:14 pm

    menzinho wrote:Did you notice what she mumbles as she dies? "My dear Artorias..." POOOUFFF... no one says that except if you have feelings for said person (or if Artorias was in the Friendzone) feel free to take the theories back to wherever you want, but i say she went to bring Artorias back, like we did to Anastacia...

    I think that in her grief she kills herself on his grave it explains the way we find her.


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:51 pm

    menzinho wrote:Did you notice what she mumbles as she dies? "My dear Artorias..." POOOUFFF... no one says that except if you have feelings for said person (or if Artorias was in the Friendzone) feel free to take the theories back to wherever you want, but i say she went to bring Artorias back, like we did to Anastacia...

    Boom just heard that.... DUM DUM DUHHHH!H!


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    Post by menzinho on Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:33 pm

    mind blowing isn't it XD WHY NAMCO?! WHY OCTOBER?!!!


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:41 pm

    This hurts me pretty badly seeing as I am this forums resident Ciaran fanboy........


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    Post by menzinho on Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:29 pm

    You are not alone man, i love her too, but i think not as much as you do, and i feel AWFUL we'll have to kill the knights to get their armor sets... man... also I've though of an awesome build using Ciaran's leggings, Artoria's Chestpiece, Gough's helm and Ornstein's gauntlets, using Artoria's greatsword (regular one) and Gough's bow on the right hand and Ciarans curved blade and Manus catalyst on the left hand to create THE OMNIKNIGHT, aw yeah can't wait til October


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:41 pm

    Yup I solemnly swore from hence forth I would only ever make Ciaran builds...... in hindsight that was the worst idea ever!


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    Post by samster628 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:24 am

    viral you sir are obsessed. anyway i think it's fair to say cicerian has feeling for art though to what level i do not know. i think it is quite possible she committed suicide at arts grave and it is her corpse we see. i just wanted to point out that arts grave is on the site of the bombfire in oolicile sanctuary. oh and i wanted to say that i kill all NPC's on my first playthrough to get their stuff then never kill them again. it feels very mean to kill someone who has been perfectly friendly before you stab them in the back. i might investigate these mysteries when the dlc comes out on ps3


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    Post by Montante on Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:43 am

    What I do when I need to whack one of my favourite NPCs to get something from them is that I make sure that I have a clear path to the next playthrough. That way I can kill the NPC, then Gwyn, then I'll enter the next NG and the world will be all right again. big grin
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    Post by menzinho on Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:16 pm

    I'll never forgive myself for killing the fair lady... even though i see her every new playthrough it still weights my consciousness that i had the cold heart of killing that frail thing... WHY FIREKEEPER SOULS WHYYYY!!!!


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:48 pm

    samster628 wrote:viral you sir are obsessed.

    Thanks its something I work hard at.silly


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