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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:58 pm

    Spoiler:
    I will dance in the tears of gankers, since every build of mine works without DWGR and they'll all have to reroll.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:01 pm

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    I'll get mualed by gankers, because I won't be able to instamurder them when they screw up. I'm really hoping the gank squads don't adopt spears, I won't be able to do anything to them anymore. And they're almost certainly going to need to find different weapons.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:02 pm

    Parry them.
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    Re: effing masks

    Post by ScaryPirateDude on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:03 pm

    I didn't get the ring until almost the end of NG+ so I won't be that affected by the change. It will suck though.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:12 pm

    And get torn to shreds by the other 2 as I try? I can parry everything, but spears are the toughest, and with 3 at once it would only be more difficult. Not to mention they're likely to bs me as soon as the animaiton ends, or that if any of them arn't totally skilless they'll stay to far away for parrying to work.

    Either way though, I think a spear will be manditory for any gaanker killing I do.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:13 pm

    Might I actually suggest daggers.
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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:17 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:And get torn to shreds by the other 2 as I try? I can parry everything, but spears are the toughest, and with 3 at once it would only be more difficult. Not to mention they're likely to bs me as soon as the animaiton ends, or that if any of them arn't totally skilless they'll stay to far away for parrying to work.

    Either way though, I think a spear will be manditory for any gaanker killing I do.

    Dashboard it or return home, its not cheap against gankers since you ruin their trolling.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:39 pm

    You may, but I won't do it. Not a big fan of fighting with daggers, especially as they're so buff reliant, and buffing at sl80 requires serious sacrifice.

    Its not about me ruining their trolling. I enjoy fighting against groups. I don't have any intention of discouraging their ganking, unless they've been ganking someone I know.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:13 pm

    this isn't directed at anyone in particular.
    you can't parry the spears if they're sitting at range 2handing the thing. to be able to parry something you have to basically be a little bit farther than backstab range in front of them.

    you can still partial parry their attacks but i mean..

    you'll just have to use bows and spells, be overly evasive and punish them that way or be overly aggressive.
    unlocking them and dodging their pokes or dashing to your right in a circle around them with a shield up works too.

    2h is the problem right forum pirate?


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:18 pm

    Hopefully one handed is not his problem, and I never said parrying them was as easy as parrying other weapons haha.

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    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:29 pm

    If they made the spears slightly slower that would help.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:30 pm

    Spoiler:
    If a spear hits a shield, it gets knocked back. So if they just spam R1 they'll get staggered.
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    Re: effing masks

    Post by ICEFANG on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:31 pm

    That's not always true unless they changed something


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:32 pm

    That's what I've seen so far in every video I've watched with the new content, and just the new content.

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    Post by Wisp on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:36 pm

    Yeah I saw that too. Awesome if true.
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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:37 pm

    Yeah all I've got to say, is Dark Souls looks really balanced so far.

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    Re: effing masks

    Post by ICEFANG on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:37 pm

    Oh mmm interesting. I will post if I find any evidence to the contrary. Since I use a Rapier, I will have to be extra careful.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:43 pm

    When the new metagame arrives there will be new gank methods althought they will be less effective but then again twop nerf?


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:44 pm

    Frankly there is no need for a TwoP nerf, since every new method that has been added does not make ganking easier in any regard, just harder. So if anything, the balances will make it easier to fight gankers.
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    Re: effing masks

    Post by Rin on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:45 pm

    hmmm, masks are awesome i mean....

    fathers= heavy armor most likely a gs weapon type user

    moms= high in hp, best tactic counter bs or a longer fight

    childs= turtle or a light more damaging build

    all the info i need to kill stuff


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    Post by Kiva the wanderer on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:46 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Frankly there is no need for a TwoP nerf, since every new method that has been added does not make ganking easier in any regard, just harder. So if anything, the balances will make it easier to fight gankers.

    All those screwed gankers with their false confidence.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by bloodpixel on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:44 pm

    So basically spears are crap now?
    Also I want TWoP nerfed to oblivion. Just take it out of the game. Nothing annoys me more than that spell.
    If the same thing applies to Rapiers I will be very annoyed.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:50 pm

    Why are spears crap now. if I had read that I would have been crying tears of joy.


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    Post by bloodpixel on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:53 pm

    Check the previous page which Tolvo had stuff in spoilers.


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    Re: effing masks

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:54 pm

    Forum would be happy. Me too, but I have found certain methods that work against spears (bows, spear vs spear, 62 poise).


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